@martin-futter said in 2 Step Verification:

@richard-latimer it’s not that, why keep so much money in there? If you have all of your bankroll tempting you to go all in it’s riskier imo.

I would never do that but some interesting points. I'll decide where to go from here.

@ben-dobie cheers mate its going well so far

I think you'll need to track them yourself in play, you can get some data from Betfair (not sure if they've changed this) but when I used it before it wasn't the best to use and didn't give the numbers I wanted & didn't correlate to what was happening.

I believe Bet Angel might have a product that has done something with this in play.

@ryan-carruthers said in THE DREADED CALL:

@james-everard Defo! Whats your beer of choice?

Wife beater ( Stella) two cans I will fight anyone lol

He wasn't wearing a jersey 😮

brilliant news

Took a short price lay on Evil Geniuses too but not panning out so red on that. Cloud9 screwed it up but I took the lay because a 2-0 was unlikely although that loss was on Cloud9's pick and they threw away a 7 round lead. My lay price was 1.66. If it hits 1.12 I'll take my leave for the day and red.

Although I think it is the same data ( maybe wrong, normally am lol) but if you type into your search engine http//:betfairspprice the first option is says betfair sp history. The second paragraph says the following final win and place Betfair starting prices for Gb and Irish races are available for each day in the files here ( highlighted in blue). Click the blue here and it gives you all the data for horses and dogs for years.

@mark-cooper I've not yet signed up buddy 🙂

@dan-erridge we have tried it before but we preferred using the forum for alerts

@james-everard Cracking book! Let me know what you takeaway from it.

Dam it was played at 3am but that Essendon v Fremantle match would have been perfect. The Bombers 24 points up start of last quarter and won by 6.

As would the Adelaide v Sydney match. Might have to have some early starts in case the later matches don’t offer the opportunities.

@jalpesh-madlani if you mean a written article it is here: https://betfairtradingcommunity.com/en/blog/7-steps-master-cricket-scalping-trading-betfair

read our guide here: https://betfairtradingcommunity.com/en/blog/cricket-trading-ultimate-trading-start-guide

Hi mate sorry i was trading the football tonight and thought id get back to you after the hustle had died down. ROI is net profit divided by total assets. So in your case it would be 11% on the low odds version and 16% on the 1.50 odds entry. Before i answer it, let me just say congrats on finding a profitable system.

Let me ask you a quick question what do you feel more comfortable doing? The amount of trades you are performing with the low odds entry, to equal the same amount of profit as the 1.50 odds is rather alot. What this means is your having to be more efficient in managing your trades. Just because its less odds doesnt actually mean less risk because now your having to trade more games which is increasing risk the same amount. We are all prone to mistakes and just because you have paper traded doesnt mean mistakes wont happen. Which with this risk/reward for low odds your going to get hit hard both bank wise and mentally.

Are you doing any pre match research other than just what the filter puts up? or are you just trading every game on it? If you take the 1.50 entry you can increase that strike rate and be in a healthier position. Not to mention on top of that the 1.5/60 mins entry allows you to take a look at how the match is progressing. So you can see inplay stats or be able to watch the game. Imagine having to do that with the amount of games your low odds entry has. I 100% believe if you followed this approach you could tighten your strike rate up and would be making more profits.

For me its a not about the quantity. There is a massive tendency because you have a high strike rate difference between the 2 different entries that youll favour the higher one hence why your defensive of it in the last few sentences. The low odds entry will have lower variance but your potential profit ie if you have a good batch of 100 trades wont be as significant as if you were to say increase your strike rate of the 1.5 entry by even 2-3% per 100. Not every 100 batch of games will perform identical. The gaps between 72-75% has a far greater impact on profit and would only require 5-6 games heading in your favour to achieve that unlike the low odds when your already hitting the ceiling with the profit potential.

Let me know if you have any follow up comment.

I have been busy trading today and also been helping another member with his trading which is getting pretty detailed. If you want my email just send me a private message. Id also use the private coaching section and wrack the brains of ryan and martin. But im always up for helping anyone best i can.

@james-everard said in betfair charges:

Hi Jarratt

Yes mate that is the message I got. I had no idea that there was restrictions on the number of bets you could do within a hour. I watched a video on Utube from Betangel on setting up automation for greyhounds, it was tiny stakes of 10p that over a 4minute period rearming every 5 seconds max of 200. I wish they had of mentioned in the video that to be careful not to automate more than 1000 bets in a hour otherwise you will be hit with yet another charge from Betfair.
I will refine the automation so it just does 10 bets max for the event.
So, all in all, I had a f....ing dreadful weekend of trades going wrong and charges being applied. Just to confirm is it a max of 1000 bets in 1 hour under this there is no additional charges?

yes - under 1000.

Sadly we all have to make the mistakes to learn 🙂 I think the reasoning is Betfair may think you're collecting a lot of data which they don't want you to do as they sell it for £200 a month i think!

Least you caught it early 🙂

Your advice is worth 10k Keith

@ivan1977uk I'm not using any insurance but there's a filter on the members filters called Ryan Betgreen which is a good LTD filter there is a video here

http://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/475/2019-football-trading-thread/9053