Horse Racing Strategies Megathread
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@emily-knowles said in Horse Racing Strategies Megathread:
Superb, thanks @John-Folan. I use Angel, can you clarify what you mean by tell it to?
I was going to set automation for 10 seconds before the off and stop manual trading 1min before. Do I need to do anything else?
So chuffed to finally be able to do both styles of betting/trading!
As long as you aren’t trading out you don’t need to do anything. If you are you just need to set it to settle this trade only and not whole market.
I’m normally out of scalping with 1 minute to go like you and it always works perfectly with whatever I have firing in after that.
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Superb, thanks @John-Folan. I use Angel, can you clarify what you mean by tell it to?
I was going to set automation for 10 seconds before the off and stop manual trading 1min before. Do I need to do anything else?
So chuffed to finally be able to do both styles of betting/trading!
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@emily-knowles said in Horse Racing Strategies Megathread:
I'm still trying to work out how to combine automation for my strategies and to manually trade the same markets manually pre-race.
What happens if I "green up" a minute before the off after profitably trading THEN the automation backs or lays a horse 10 seconds before the off?
Will the two each element get in the way of each other or will the bet stand properly?
Should stand properly. Does with bfbm if you tell it to. Also I’m pretty sure bet Angel does that too
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I'm still trying to work out how to combine automation for my strategies and to manually trade the same markets manually pre-race.
What happens if I "green up" a minute before the off after profitably trading THEN the automation backs or lays a horse 10 seconds before the off?
Will the two each element get in the way of each other or will the bet stand properly?
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@joseph-henderson yes I think it is
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Just a quick question. Is the back the fav at the off strategy that is used for the emailed tips version 2? Version 3 that I have downloaded does not have Nottingham in the course filter.
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@craig-vaulks @john-folan had a decent dob strategy, not sure what the latest version is.
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So i've created my own basic strategy just testing out the software looking for a decent back to lay method. Can anyone help me refine or give advice on it. I am mainly just looking for decent daily selections to trade manually but would be nice if I could automate in the future. This one is only profitable if I add around a 15 to 20 second window to trade in play or if I add a stop loss. Not sure why it would not work as a DOB.
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@jonathan-jones
thanks for the tip. i will watch some of the movies he made,
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@samo
https://www.youtube.com/@betyourlife is a great resource for learning automation in Fairbot. I havnt used the files on this forum but in general to import stuff into Fairbot its tools menu - Strategy editor. That brings up the strategy editor window. Then on that window its File - Import Strategy (you need to save the strategy once its imported).
In general with fairbot its always a good idea to have a race of that type open otherwise some event type specific stuff might not show correctly.
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@samo which automation service are you using? post the question in the thread for that provider:, you can find the index here: https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/4078/automation-trading-bots-index
Just seen you are using fairbot so you will want to ask in this thread: https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3923/fairbot-automation-discussion
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@samo
i tried to download the fairbot automation rules but i can't get it to upload and i like to understand and learn what the rules are.
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Hi Martin,
I have a question regarding automation the back the favo at the off: do you use betfair row 1 selection or do you use lowest back od as a selection?
thanks for the reaction
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@karl-pick said in Horse Racing Strategies Megathread:
@tom-2 said in Horse Racing Strategies Megathread:
"I know it's not part of your software but I wondered if @Martin or @Adam could do a video or even get the automation software person to do one for BTC?"
I agree. I can usually get my head around stuff like that but I've had to put automation on the back burner for now. It would be great if one of the pro's in here could do an over-the-shoulder video on automation.
I must be missing a trick somewhere, but if I can't get this sorted, I may as well downgrade my account to football only. Shame, I'd love to get some horse racing automated. That would allow me to study BF more, to take it to the next level.
I have been trying for 4 weeks as well!! Not great, Old Fart New Technology, I can get it all downloaded it just does not do any bets!!
if anyone is interested in doing this PM me
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@tom-2 said in Horse Racing Strategies Megathread:
"I know it's not part of your software but I wondered if @Martin or @Adam could do a video or even get the automation software person to do one for BTC?"
I agree. I can usually get my head around stuff like that but I've had to put automation on the back burner for now. It would be great if one of the pro's in here could do an over-the-shoulder video on automation.
I must be missing a trick somewhere, but if I can't get this sorted, I may as well downgrade my account to football only. Shame, I'd love to get some horse racing automated. That would allow me to study BF more, to take it to the next level.
I have been trying for 4 weeks as well!! Not great, Old Fart New Technology, I can get it all downloaded it just does not do any bets!!
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"I know it's not part of your software but I wondered if @Martin or @Adam could do a video or even get the automation software person to do one for BTC?"
I agree. I can usually get my head around stuff like that but I've had to put automation on the back burner for now. It would be great if one of the pro's in here could do an over-the-shoulder video on automation.
I must be missing a trick somewhere, but if I can't get this sorted, I may as well downgrade my account to football only. Shame, I'd love to get some horse racing automated. That would allow me to study BF more, to take it to the next level.
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@emily-knowles said in Horse Racing Strategies Megathread:
@jonathan-jones I totally agree, I often have multiple actions to take on a horse, backs and or lays at different odds and I do them all to get as true a result as possible for each strategy.
Which software do you use to automate? I use Bet Angel but I just can't figure out how to have multiple automations on each race or have more than 2 runners per automation rule. I'm open to trying different software if recommended.
I know it's not part of your software but I wondered if @Martin or @Adam could do a video or even get the automation software person to do one for BTC?
what i do emily is basically open more than one guardian, so i have 3 staregies and they overlap races so i set one guardian page for each startegy so i have 3 guardain windows running at any time and they fire perfectly. To get additional windows just click the betangel shortcut
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@emily-knowles I use fairbot. In Fairbot you can only have one fairbot stategy file per race. You can have as many rules as you want in that file though and multiple rules (backs, lays each with its odds or other conditions etc) for each horse. Problem of course would be you would need to manually create those files for each race or use multiple instances of Fairbot if you wanted to create generic strategies enabling you to sort of apply multiple strategy files to each race.
I get round it a different way. I have written a small app that reads the qualifiers csv file then uses templates to dynamically create a fairbot strategy file for each race of that day. Takes me about 5 mins in total to set up a full days racing.
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Thank you @Richard-Coxon & @Tony-Hastie I'll check it out
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@emily-knowles I posted answers to this in the Bet Angel automation thread a couple of days ago and posted an example file this morning for William .. if you want any help just message me.
EDIT - haa haa I see Tony just pointed you at it
Grat minds and all that
