The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@adam
The difference in offer @ 4 to take available 1.01 to 4 is over 3000 points which i certainly wasnt expecting though i do understand there is a small technical difference between the methods. If that is correct then i will probably bin that strategy since the backtester reporting a profit using 'Take Available' simply cant be trusted if the strategy involves inplay. -
@jonathan-jones Click the changelog button and see if you can see the latest changes on 13/08/2022 listed:
I just had a look and re-saved the strategy we were discussing in your config, because although the fix was applied to the software itself, the strategy was still saved from a version where the issue was present.
Give the page a refresh and have another look now...
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Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.
Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
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Is there a way to check if i am using the latest version ofthe software? A fix was deployed over the weekend but its still looking very broke to me. I have cleared the cache (pretty sure it worked since it asked me to log back into the software and other sites i had open).
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@nick-allan BA Has plenty of videos to help. Plus, files to download. The best way is to use the files, and play around with them in 'play' mode.
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One flat pace. Usual rules.
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Todays
Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.
Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
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heys guys im dropping BFBM for bet angel and wondered if there is a tread to talk about automation issues on BA guardian like the one that Jon has for BFBM auto?
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@john-folan thanks for posting these, however isn’t the flat pace back yesterday’s list?
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Today's. Everything struggling at the moment. Guessing the weather is having an effect
Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.
Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
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@adam
Thanks,
So it is what i thought it was. Might of found a small bug then. The reason i asked was when i changed from "Take Available" at 4-4 to "Offer" at 4 the profit dropped from plus 1200 to minus 1500. Obviously i couldnt get me head round that since the 2 options should produce similar results in the backtest. This isnt happening today and i am seeing the results i expect but yesterday isnt the first time i have seen that odd behaviour when swapping between "Take Available" and "Offer". I gave up with some experiments in a "Lay the Field" type strategy because of it. -
@jonathan-jones If you use "Take Available", the horse has to trade within that range. It's like looking at the market and going "oh ok, this one's in my acceptable range, I'm going to open a trade at that price. E.g. if your range is 4.0 - 7.0 and you spot a selection at 5.0, you open a trade at 5.0. If you set your range to 4.0-4.0, you're saying the horse has to trade at exactly 4.0, no higher or lower.
"Offer Price" means queuing your bet up at a specific price. If you're backing at 4.0 and a horse trades at 4.0 or lower, you'll see an entry bet at 4.0, and vice versa for lays. The price "matched" is always the price you specify, as if your bet was sat there waiting, i.e. if the price goes through your specified price and trades at 5.0 > 4.6 > 4.2 > 3.8, you'd be matched at 4.0, not 3.8.
I think the latter is what you're looking for in this case. In fact, I think in most cases where people enter the same number for the upper and lower price in the "Take Available" range, they're probably actually looking for "Offer Price". I might put a warning in the software to account for that.
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Hi, quick question. In the software whats the difference between 'Take Available Price' and 'Offer'?
I thought take available is just doing a bet at the current market price if that price is in the available range and offer is putting a bet in the market at the price you want and waiting for it to be taken.With that in mind I must have a logical blip in my head because i would of thought for a lay for example using take available from odds 4 to 4 from 1 min out to the end of the race is the same as offer at odds of 4 yet the results are pretty much the complete reverse in terms of profits. Obviously there may be selections under 4 which would be a bit of a spanner as they would match at their current price but given if i change the odds range in available to 1.01 to 4 (so should account for almost all of those) the result is almost the same as just using available of 4 to 4 (ie a good profit).
Anyone care to point out what i am clearly missing.
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Today's
Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win any between 3.5-9 Near the Off. Avoid Heavy ground.
Flat Pace: 2-25 odds range. Avoid Firm, Heavy and Soft Ground. 4-14 Runners only. Try and place 11 minutes out for the best value.
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@darryll said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan Yeah, weird. Did yours just not hit Run For Oscar at all?
Nope. I’m on the 300 refresh but that shouldn’t make a difference. It went off at 2.43 so was over the 2.4. Mine goes in at 10 seconds out
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@john-folan Yeah, weird. Did yours just not hit Run For Oscar at all?
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One flat pace. Two winners on these yesterday.
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