The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@john-folan I didn't realise you could have min/max on those, that is a really good option then!
Yeah I know about the odds moves etc but I think a lot of people will want something they can place in the morning etc without bot
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Is anyone else having issues with the horse racing software this morning?
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@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan thanks mate, that's really helpful, what I want to look at is I can develop some strategies that wouldn't require sitting at PC or using a bot, as I know there will be a lot of people who will not use one.
The only problem I see there is pricing as they change a lot all day long. A lot more so than football. That's why I bot. I've used the software to zero in on when the best place to jump on board is.
The only way round it I can see is to look for BSP strategies. You can have a maximum lay price and a minimum back price on those. Probably need to ask Adam to add BSP as a price option in the software.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
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@john-folan thanks mate, that's really helpful, what I want to look at is I can develop some strategies that wouldn't require sitting at PC or using a bot, as I know there will be a lot of people who will not use one.
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@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@Nick-Allan @John-Folan what I mean is let's say you just wanted to place some horse bets for the day at once, what time would be the best to do that do you think?
You would probably need to do it in two stints. After 12 for the afternoon(maybe 11 in the winter as it starts earlier) then about 4 for the evenings races. I've got all mine botted to place them when needed before a race. Literally just line them up in the morning and let the bot do its work at the appropriate time
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
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@Nick-Allan @John-Folan what I mean is let's say you just wanted to place some horse bets for the day at once, what time would be the best to do that do you think?
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@nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@martin i scalp horse races and last 5 mins is when markets really move but not sure that best for prices but for liquidy you can go from 150K to 450K in a min
Do you find that prices near the off tend to revert to where they were about 10 minutes out? Seems to happen a lot I think.
erm difficult to say i do tend to scalp small movements with normally 1 or 2 runners but on the whole those with shorters prices do john yes, dont know about longer priced runners dont tend to scalp anything over 7.5. I persoanlly prefer to get early morning prices on horses 15 and over
I normally only scalp shorter odds favourites so it might just be a trend there. I’ve tried scalping longer priced horses but I invariably f**k it up. Get a great income off of the favourites so I just stay there.
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@martin i scalp horse races and last 5 mins is when markets really move but not sure that best for prices but for liquidy you can go from 150K to 450K in a min
Do you find that prices near the off tend to revert to where they were about 10 minutes out? Seems to happen a lot I think.
erm difficult to say i do tend to scalp small movements with normally 1 or 2 runners but on the whole those with shorters prices do john yes, dont know about longer priced runners dont tend to scalp anything over 7.5. I persoanlly prefer to get early morning prices on horses 15 and over
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@nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@martin i scalp horse races and last 5 mins is when markets really move but not sure that best for prices but for liquidy you can go from 150K to 450K in a min
Do you find that prices near the off tend to revert to where they were about 10 minutes out? Seems to happen a lot I think.
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@martin i scalp horse races and last 5 mins is when markets really move but not sure that best for prices but for liquidy you can go from 150K to 450K in a min
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@martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan and anyone else who sees this, what time would you say in general the horse markets firm up liquidity wise on UK racing in the morning? I'm thinking around 11/12am but wondering what the Horse guys think!
Depends on the meeting and how much you want to get matched really. Probably an hour before the race for my purposes.
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@john-folan and anyone else who sees this, what time would you say in general the horse markets firm up liquidity wise on UK racing in the morning? I'm thinking around 11/12am but wondering what the Horse guys think!
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Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@adam said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Anyone else looking at the course characteristics in the software as a filter? I am thinking that it is probably more reliable than course filters as there is a much bigger dataset
I think this is a good idea in combination with pace and going. "Galloping" tracks suit longer striding horses that like to, well, gallop, without turning sharply. Sharp courses suit the more nimble horses. "Stiff" courses can knacker the horse out due to the rises, especially when the going is soft.
Glad you agree there. It makes a different in a fair few strategies. Nice datasets as well.
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Anyone else looking at the course characteristics in the software as a filter? I am thinking that it is probably more reliable than course filters as there is a much bigger dataset
I think this is a good idea in combination with pace and going. "Galloping" tracks suit longer striding horses that like to, well, gallop, without turning sharply. Sharp courses suit the more nimble horses. "Stiff" courses can knacker the horse out due to the rises, especially when the going is soft.
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Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
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Classic Trobs: Trob any between 3.5-9 as close to the off as you can. Avoid Heavy Ground.
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Anyone else looking at the course characteristics in the software as a filter? I am thinking that it is probably more reliable than course filters as there is a much bigger dataset
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion
