The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@emily-knowles said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@stephen-beale I don't automate the scalping, I like to do it manually so I can decide which ladder looks best and change mid trade if needs be.
I didn't get on with Caan Berry, I got a refund on his course. I really like Peter Webb who runs Bet Angel. Here is a link to his free training https://online.betangelacademy.com/collections?page=3 (@Martin please delete if this isn't appropriate)
yeah i scalp manually too as it would be too complex to do in auto and i think emily is right you need to look at other horses and why they are drfiting and coming in in price. Lot of variables you need to keep an eye on and i dont think you can do that using auto. I use geeks toy and love that i got a life time license abiut a yr ago for £120. I dont really like BA ladders but its all preference isn it.
I must get back to scalping but its time issue, demanding job and a lot of stuff going on with football and horse startegies to keep me busy but it can be a viable revenue source, just takes practice and watching back your scalping trades to see what tyou are doing right or wrong using screen recordings
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@stephen-beale I don't automate the scalping, I like to do it manually so I can decide which ladder looks best and change mid trade if needs be.
I didn't get on with Caan Berry, I got a refund on his course. I really like Peter Webb who runs Bet Angel. Here is a link to his free training https://online.betangelacademy.com/collections?page=3 (@Martin please delete if this isn't appropriate)
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@stephen-beale said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@emily-knowles said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
I swing/scalp every pre-race racing market. I find it really fun and easy and so much less stressful than relying on a horse to win or lose!
@emily-knowles Oh wow, this sounds really interesting!! Do you have any guides or websites that you'd recommend to a beginner, pls?
i learnt to scalp via caan berry tutorials, he also has some good youtube clips you can check them out there
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@emily-knowles said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
I swing/scalp every pre-race racing market. I find it really fun and easy and so much less stressful than relying on a horse to win or lose!
@emily-knowles Oh wow, this sounds really interesting!! Do you have any guides or websites that you'd recommend to a beginner, pls?
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@emily-knowles said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@nick-allan Nice idea to set and forget on another exchange, but that leads to the next problem, I can't automate that, only on Betfair.
I swing/scalp every pre-race racing market. I find it really fun and easy and so much less stressful than relying on a horse to win or lose!
are you automating scapling?
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@paul-foster Oh wow that sounds easy!
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@emily-knowles I would guess so. I use BFBM for automated and using the "sync with BFBM" I don't even need to upload the selections. Also, each of my strategies have their own bank set within the bot which none of the other bots offer.
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@paul-foster That could work, I think!
I could automate on Bet Angel and scalp on Fairbot?
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@emily-knowles what about different bots for automated trades and scalping?? I'm sure a few have mentioned before that thats what they do, maybe BFBM or Fairbot for automated and Bet Angel for scalping.
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@nick-allan Nice idea to set and forget on another exchange, but that leads to the next problem, I can't automate that, only on Betfair.
I swing/scalp every pre-race racing market. I find it really fun and easy and so much less stressful than relying on a horse to win or lose!
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@emily-knowles said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
I'm wondering how it works when you have a set and forget strategy (which I have now automated on Bet Angel) and you also want to manually scalp or swing trade on the same market
Does one not wipe out the other or can you do them both simultaneously?
dont think you can do both sim as scapling and swing trading utilsise back and lays in a hope of profit. Do yoiu scalp/swing in play or pre market?
the other thing you can do is place your set and forget on another exchange like smarkets and use BF for scalp and swing as they have more liquidity meaning faster markets and better scapling conditions
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I'm wondering how it works when you have a set and forget strategy (which I have now automated on Bet Angel) and you also want to manually scalp or swing trade on the same market
Does one not wipe out the other or can you do them both simultaneously?
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Gosh, thanks for all your replies and advice about my "target profit" question. Lots of great advice and insight from everyone, I really appreciate it
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@richard-coxon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@stephen-beale hi Stephen, yes it is a question with no answer. Personally I feel setting targets is a bad idea. It leads to madness such as over trading, over staking, chasing etc. and rather than making the target, you end up missing it totally.
My goal is to go steady, and focus on compounding the bank and staking at 1 point on backs and a liability of 3 points on a lay. That way the bank stays intact, the stake size grows gradually and I don’t stress when I hit a loosing streak.
i agree with richard here Stephen and it might not be what you want to hear but setting targets doesnt help your trading , it hinders it. Im at the moment about to possibly hit my 2nd month of constant profit, its not big profit but its a start and that is my main goal, dont care about the amount of profit and targets that comes with time. Take it slow buddy, trading is a long term profession and i plan to be in it for many years to come. YOu can only do this by protecting your bank. Be patient and the profits will come, dont chase it with targets that could have you staking more and making bad decisiosn that hit your bottom line. Been trading about 5 years and when i realised this it was a bit of a eurkea moment
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@stephen-beale
Tough question. I started a test with a portfolio of all the strats at the start of the month (big lays with maria staking). They are not exactly the presets but they are all variations on the presets. Analysis of the long term historical data suggests it should return an average of 3 points per day. You could do an analysis like that to get an idea. BUT...remember thats an average and you will get down days and up days. And , down weeks and up weeks, And (even more frustratingly if you wanted to make an income) down months and up months.
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@stephen-beale hi Stephen, yes it is a question with no answer. Personally I feel setting targets is a bad idea. It leads to madness such as over trading, over staking, chasing etc. and rather than making the target, you end up missing it totally.
My goal is to go steady, and focus on compounding the bank and staking at 1 point on backs and a liability of 3 points on a lay. That way the bank stays intact, the stake size grows gradually and I don’t stress when I hit a loosing streak.
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Hi, I have a question and I feel like it might be one of those "impossible to answer" questions;
I'm looking to make on average between £450-£600 per month from BTC, using the 5/6 presets
How much do you think I'd need to stake in backs and lays to get that?
(Laying to liability)I had a rough start to my BTC career (I'm down around £140), so I've been running in simulation mode on fairbot for the past couple of weeks on min stakes, and I'm having trouble working out my staking with that rough target in mind
I'm just looking for a very rough, ballpark figure ofc, just so I can have a vague idea of what I might be aiming for.
Thanks!!!
