The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@david-milligan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
I only had two Short Lays and 1 LBF. Another couple of good wins on the backing strategies, they have been going very nicely! Nearly 50% bank increase for C&D in about four weeks!
It’s good to see all the strategies performing as should(even the bad spells). Waiting for the pace backs to kick off now and we will be all good.
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I only had two Short Lays and 1 LBF. Another couple of good wins on the backing strategies, they have been going very nicely! Nearly 50% bank increase for C&D in about four weeks!
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@karl-pick said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
3/4 today. Nice
Yes Very Very Nice, for some reason I got 6/6 ?
Circus Act, Pretending, Allies Damour, Win Win Power, Alpha Zulu and Rossmore Nation.God knows. We all seem to be getting slightly different results. BUT it’s the principle that’s the thing so it will work out in the end. I’m still not doing them on Saturdays though. Beaten Favourites today only.
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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
3/4 today. Nice
Yes Very Very Nice, for some reason I got 6/6 ?
Circus Act, Pretending, Allies Damour, Win Win Power, Alpha Zulu and Rossmore Nation. -
3/4 today. Nice
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@nick-allan
I thought betangel could load selections from a spreadsheet. I dont have BA but have seen a few of his videos. It seemed a bit pricy for me given the alternatives but i am sure i remember thinking about going that way because of its integration facilities. -
2/3 today. I’m reworking the short odds lays bot a bit. It will involve a slight bit of effort from people to exclude races but probably worth it. This is for BFBM which is deffo best for these sort of trades.
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@greg-mitchell thank you for all your help
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@greg-mitchell got you, right ill make that change now and take out DSLR it mean less profit but it hopefully it will start to match the software results which is the goal, over 6 months its 10 pts difference and i can accept that
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@nick-allan Yes exactly
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@greg-mitchell oh sholuld the odds range be less than 1.79 and more than 2.41? so 1.8 and 2,4 is included? and runners be less than 3 and more then 16? so the 4 and 15 runners are included? is that what you mean?
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@greg-mitchell Oh and yes ive looked at a comparison from my current version and one without a DSLR filter and there is a slight different but not massive so I will take out that rule until I got back to BFBM in 5 months time
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@greg-mitchell But the odds and runners are right, you can see that’s its set up to place a lay bet between 1.8 and 2.4 which it has been doing? Here the screenshots:
Same with the runners its 4-15 odds condition, is it not?
Have you got a bot that set up correctly and ill replace it?
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@greg-mitchell
Its pretty insane how much you actually have to butcher some of these strategies to make them unprofitable. They seem to be pretty impervious to most tweaks or ommisions of filter criteria. Some you really wouldnt want to have real money on but they are still overall profitable. -
Ok, so if you just want to trade the races ignoring the DSLR then you need to take it out of your software filter too, otherwise they will never match. According to the software this does decrease your strike rate, profit and ROI but not significantly.
The odds criteria was not right, because it would not have placed a bet if the odds were 1.8 or 2.4 and neither would it of placed a bet if there were 4 or 15 runners, which it should be doing.
So if you change your original bot criteria as I changed it for the odds and runners, change the bet placement time and remove the DSLR from your BTC strategy, you should be pretty much a match with the software.
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@greg-mitchell Ill change the timings no problem. Yeah unfortunately there isn’t a DSLR filter in BA I guess they have one on BFBM?
I was told not to go by the selection but to go by the race, I get we have to do that because of the DSLR issue but I don’t have time every morning to put the 2 possible selections (sometimes there are 8 or 10 in the daily selections) and of course that can change throughout the day. So are you saying that the DSLR is the issue? If I take that out of the software would the results match more?The odds criteria is right, it places a lay bet between 1.8 and 2.4 which I have seen it do, its also not fired when there are less than 4 and more than 15 so that’s right?
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@greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@lee-colvin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Brilliant Feb for John’s SOL strategy folks eh? I ended the month just over 14.25 points up laying to a one point liability, and I missed out on a few winners as well, phenomenal return indeed.
Thanks John for a cracking strategy
Thanks also to the three BTC boys for bringing it all together, what a brilliant community this has turned out to be
jesus i made 2.5 points, its incredible how different people get different results, have to say its getting a bit frustrating, always seem to be 2 steps behind
I've just checked my bot results v the software (I'm using BFBM), for February"
The Software shows 67 bets with an overall profit of 14.3 points and a strike rate of 63%
My Bot shows shows 68 bets with an overall profit of 16.5 points and a strike rate of 65%57 of the bets are on both the bot and the software.
Of the 10 bets that are on the software but not the bot, 8 of them are showing odds of 1.8 or 2.4, so very close to the threshold, probably explains why the bot didn't fire.
Of the 11 bets on the bot but not on the software, 7 of them are showing odds of 1.8 or 2.4, so very close to the threshold, probably explains why they are not on the software.I'm not sure why the 2 missing from the bot and the 5 missing from the software occurred, both variances account for 2 pts profit, but I figure as long as its profitable it doesn't really matter
Exactly what I’ve been saying. It’s the principle that’s important. As long as you are close you will be profitable. Most of my differences are due to being on the odds border at either end. Got one extra that I have no explanation for having. I looked briefly and then decided I didn’t care anymore
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0_1677759927568_johns-short-odds_V2.baf
Try this
So:
You have this set to fire between 10 secs and 9 seconds from the start time, this should be 10 seconds to 0 seconds to match the software. The software is basically saying that if the odds are between 1.8 and 2.4 anytime between 10 seconds from the Official Start Time and the Official Start Time then place the bet. You only have a 1 second window.
You have set it fire on EVERY selection, this takes the DSLR factor out, you should be using Nominated selections as given by the software
Your conditions for the odds and runners were excluding odds of 1.8 and 2.4 and 4 or 15 runners.
The attached allows up to 2 nominated selections, just takes a moment in the morning to check if its likely the software selections will meet the odds criteria before Nominating them.
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@greg-mitchell it fires 10 secs before the offical race start time so for 14:00 at kempton it will fire 13:59:50, of course races rarely start on time
