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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • Angus MacleodA Offline
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    Angus Macleod
    wrote on last edited by
    #1121

    Good to hear such encouraging stuff about the various strategies, long may it continue! Lets all just remember to form an orderly queue when it comes time to buy private islands, yeah? We're not savages remember 😂

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by John Folan
    #1122

    @daniel-mills said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    "John Folan a day ago reply quote
    2/3 today. I’m reworking the short odds lays bot a bit. It will involve a slight bit of effort from people to exclude races but probably worth it. This is for BFBM which is deffo best for these sort of trades."

    @john-folan filtering out certain races?

    edit: didn't include the original post

    No. Basically it will list the races for the day and you can then just exclude races that aren’t on the strategy list(chase for example)by clicking a selection in the race. I’m not changing the strategy at all.

    I’ll explain it properly when I’ve tested it fully and post the bot file.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by A Former User
    #1123

    "John Folan a day ago reply quote
    2/3 today. I’m reworking the short odds lays bot a bit. It will involve a slight bit of effort from people to exclude races but probably worth it. This is for BFBM which is deffo best for these sort of trades."

    @john-folan filtering out certain races?

    edit: didn't include the original post

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to David Milligan on last edited by
    #1124

    @david-milligan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    I only had two Short Lays and 1 LBF. Another couple of good wins on the backing strategies, they have been going very nicely! Nearly 50% bank increase for C&D in about four weeks!

    It’s good to see all the strategies performing as should(even the bad spells). Waiting for the pace backs to kick off now and we will be all good.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    David Milligan
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    #1125

    I only had two Short Lays and 1 LBF. Another couple of good wins on the backing strategies, they have been going very nicely! Nearly 50% bank increase for C&D in about four weeks!

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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #1126

    @karl-pick said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    3/4 today. Nice

    Yes Very Very Nice, for some reason I got 6/6 ?
    Circus Act, Pretending, Allies Damour, Win Win Power, Alpha Zulu and Rossmore Nation.

    God knows. We all seem to be getting slightly different results. BUT it’s the principle that’s the thing so it will work out in the end. I’m still not doing them on Saturdays though. Beaten Favourites today only.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1127

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    3/4 today. Nice

    Yes Very Very Nice, for some reason I got 6/6 ?
    Circus Act, Pretending, Allies Damour, Win Win Power, Alpha Zulu and Rossmore Nation.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1128

    3/4 today. Nice

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • AdamA Offline
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    Adam btc team
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    #1129

    BetAngel has an API now which is pretty cool. I haven't looked at it yet but we'll create a qualifiers integration for it soon.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    A Former User
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #1130

    @nick-allan
    I thought betangel could load selections from a spreadsheet. I dont have BA but have seen a few of his videos. It seemed a bit pricy for me given the alternatives but i am sure i remember thinking about going that way because of its integration facilities.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1131

    2/3 today. I’m reworking the short odds lays bot a bit. It will involve a slight bit of effort from people to exclude races but probably worth it. This is for BFBM which is deffo best for these sort of trades.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1132

    @greg-mitchell thank you for all your help

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1133

    @greg-mitchell got you, right ill make that change now and take out DSLR it mean less profit but it hopefully it will start to match the software results which is the goal, over 6 months its 10 pts difference and i can accept that

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #1134

    @nick-allan Yes exactly

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1135

    @greg-mitchell oh sholuld the odds range be less than 1.79 and more than 2.41? so 1.8 and 2,4 is included? and runners be less than 3 and more then 16? so the 4 and 15 runners are included? is that what you mean?

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1136

    @greg-mitchell Oh and yes ive looked at a comparison from my current version and one without a DSLR filter and there is a slight different but not massive so I will take out that rule until I got back to BFBM in 5 months time

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1137

    @greg-mitchell But the odds and runners are right, you can see that’s its set up to place a lay bet between 1.8 and 2.4 which it has been doing? Here the screenshots:

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    0_1677768402818_731a1396-aecf-4ff4-84c8-3069c64e2f06-image.png

    Same with the runners its 4-15 odds condition, is it not?

    0_1677768441221_76e69124-a128-432e-ad00-90f21bf0a463-image.png

    0_1677768473577_176d5ac4-6a88-4e94-ad55-dcff5c3fb825-image.png

    Have you got a bot that set up correctly and ill replace it?

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    A Former User
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1138

    @greg-mitchell
    Its pretty insane how much you actually have to butcher some of these strategies to make them unprofitable. They seem to be pretty impervious to most tweaks or ommisions of filter criteria. Some you really wouldnt want to have real money on but they are still overall profitable.

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #1139

    @nick-allan

    Ok, so if you just want to trade the races ignoring the DSLR then you need to take it out of your software filter too, otherwise they will never match. According to the software this does decrease your strike rate, profit and ROI but not significantly.

    The odds criteria was not right, because it would not have placed a bet if the odds were 1.8 or 2.4 and neither would it of placed a bet if there were 4 or 15 runners, which it should be doing.

    So if you change your original bot criteria as I changed it for the odds and runners, change the bet placement time and remove the DSLR from your BTC strategy, you should be pretty much a match with the software.

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    Nick Allan
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1140

    @greg-mitchell Ill change the timings no problem. Yeah unfortunately there isn’t a DSLR filter in BA I guess they have one on BFBM?
    I was told not to go by the selection but to go by the race, I get we have to do that because of the DSLR issue but I don’t have time every morning to put the 2 possible selections (sometimes there are 8 or 10 in the daily selections) and of course that can change throughout the day. So are you saying that the DSLR is the issue? If I take that out of the software would the results match more?

    The odds criteria is right, it places a lay bet between 1.8 and 2.4 which I have seen it do, its also not fired when there are less than 4 and more than 15 so that’s right?

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