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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #1081

    @martin I think there is logic behind it. It could just be luck but there is logical reasoning that you could apply. With the strategies we need our selections (based on historical stats) to trade within specific odds ranges. If the traders responsible for most of the volume are making hay on the festivals then that means less volume to determine the odds 'correctly' on other events.

    Basically for our strategies (which are purely stats based and play the numbers over a sample size according to normal conditions) we need everything to be 'normal' to ensure the same conditions. If there is a major festival thats obvioualy not going to be the case.

    I could be totally wrong but it seems reasonable.

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    replied to Matthew Sheehan on last edited by
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    @matthew-sheehan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @Martin it all racing. I decided to up my stakes a bit and then hit a losing streak on a few strategies, but it happens, I suppose. I've had plenty of losing streaks before. @John-Folan thanks I have just downloaded the book and will give it a read 🙂

    that's good to know because I think massive festivals probably do have an effect on the other racing going on. I'm starting to think it's like leagues that carry on through an international break! Something to monitor moving forward

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
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    @Martin it all racing. I decided to up my stakes a bit and then hit a losing streak on a few strategies, but it happens, I suppose. I've had plenty of losing streaks before. @John-Folan thanks I have just downloaded the book and will give it a read 🙂

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    replied to David Milligan on last edited by
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    @david-milligan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan great book

    It really is. Stopped me fiddling around with stuff after a few bad results. I can think of a couple of people who could do with a copy 🤣🤣🤣.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    David Milligan
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    @john-folan great book

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    John Folan
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    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @matthew-sheehan Chelt races in particular or all racing this week?

    It wouldn’t sweat it too much. You can spend too long looking for reasons why stuff has a bad week. Used to drive me up the wall. Then I read a book called “Fooled by the Randomness”. Made me look at it all in a new light.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    replied to Matthew Sheehan on last edited by
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    @matthew-sheehan Chelt races in particular or all racing this week?

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    Matthew Sheehan
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    I’ve had a great feb and March but as soon as Cheltenham came in, I’ve had a massive pasting. Hard to take but I’ve put it down to variance. stay hard bitches

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    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    I’m about 4 points down this month on the short odd lays. Shame after last month but plenty of time for it to sort itself out.

    Hopefully that's all by the end of the day, today has started badly as well.

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
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    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @jonathan-jones wonder if the big festivals distort the rest of racing, seems like they do, will be interesting to monitor moving forward

    Yes I have found it a very topsy turvey week, mainstream has been great though!! End of week accounts could show a valuable insight for me as first time trading a festival.

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    replied to Adam on last edited by
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    @adam

    It had worked just after i posted. The criteria were similar so i was wondering how i could tell. One had Age Rank the other didnt and that suddenly showed in the list (but it hadnt before) so i knew it had changed over.

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    I’m about 4 points down this month on the short odd lays. Shame after last month but plenty of time for it to sort itself out.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @jonathan-jones daily qualifiers can take 24 hours to show after changing the filter I believe, check the upcoming qualifiers when you run the strategy instead for instant results.

    Shouldn't take this long. The daily qualifiers runs roughly every 90 minutes currently and will pick up the latest active strategies each time it runs.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    replied to A Former User on last edited by
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    @jonathan-jones wonder if the big festivals distort the rest of racing, seems like they do, will be interesting to monitor moving forward

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    Daniel Sawkins
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    @jonathan-jones I'll need to look into my results for the past couple of years but I'm pretty sure all the big racing events my strategies have struggled but I might be wrong.😕

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    Well, thats been a totally crap week.
    Incidentally i checked the historical data i have for my portfolio experiment and Cheltnam weeks in 2021 and 2022 were totally crap. Should of looked before hand really. Wont be trading over cheltnam next year for sure.

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    Martin btc team
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
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    @jonathan-jones daily qualifiers can take 24 hours to show after changing the filter I believe, check the upcoming qualifiers when you run the strategy instead for instant results.

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    replied to A Former User on last edited by
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    @alastair-gray

    Good to see mate 👍 puts it more into a general perspective alright, definitely think looking at it over the longer term is the way to go. I was hoping I could withdraw a bit every month or so but I might have to extend that timescale a wee bit given recent events 😄

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    If i change the version of a strategy thats active (so the one i want the daily qualifiers to use), how do i know if that change has been reflected in the qualifiers? I changed one this morning from one version to the other, but looking at the daily qualifiers i dont think (but have no real way of knowing) its showing the right ones.

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    David Milligan
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    @alastair-gray just make sure your bot is set up to allow bets on both UK and Irish races - the ready-made bot is set up for UK only.

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