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    @kevin-pepper Thats great. You didnt need to go to the trouble but its a huge help. I'm still not 100% sure on the specific's of fairbot conditions so the help on here is making such a difference.

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    @fraser-cord Hi Fraser, I had just downloaded the strategy to take a look and there's nothing obvious. As Ian said it could be something to do with the market state so I've updated the attached so it only tries to place the first bet when the market is active. I'm not sure that will necessarily make a difference but I guess the VVV game could have been suspended when the scoreline check happened at 30 mins? I added a market state check to the 2nd bet rule as well (and tidied it a bit so it only looks to trigger between 50 & 52 mins)
    Hope that helps
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    @fraser-cord said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @ian-wylie I was thinking along these line too perhaps, maybe the market was suspended for some reason.

    Just seems odd its worked with all other tests and all previous steps have been excuted

    It's hard to say exactly what happened, market suspension is possible but having looked at the match report i cant see anything that would have suggested it

    The only other issue could have been the odds range at that time which you wouldnt know without watching the bot at the time

    Haven't seen this scenario before so I think off the back of it id consider putting a new condition into the second back bet rule to only execute if the first rule has executed. Although in some cases that might work in your favour

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    @ian-wylie I was thinking along these line too perhaps, maybe the market was suspended for some reason.

    Just seems odd its worked with all other tests and all previous steps have been excuted

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    @kevin-pepper The previous picture was my full log. There is no mention of the 1st back bet for the VVV game at all.

    Here is a screen shot of the steps before, all others before and after were excuted. And with all other games i have tested with the bet has been placed.

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    @fraser-cord I've had a couple of issues with this bot as well but not had the time to test and analyse it properly. Part of the problem with testing it is that you need various scenarios to test it fully e.g. a goal before 30mins to make sure it doesn't enter, first goal between 30 - 50, first goal between 50-70 etc.

    A potential problem is the dreaded VAR of course as it can take several minutes to chop a goal of during which time the bot is likely to have traded out as the market probably won't have been suspended for all of the time.

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    @fraser-cord said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @stuart-wallace-0 said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @fraser-cord Unmatched ?

    Check in Tools/Options/log and it should give you a list of trades.

    Turns out not, it didnt place the 1st back bet on VVV game. I had it set on 2 games that kicked off at the same time. Only placed the back bet on Sittard game (as it happened, the one that had a goal before 50 mins, but says its unmatched yet I made a profit so it must have been matched).
    It then placed the 2nd back bet on the VVV game at 50 mins having not placed the 1st at 30 mins. Can it only follow 1 market at a time?

    Also is there a way to ensure a bet gets matched. For example place the bet 1 tick below current price so its instantly taken even with a price move?

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    There shouldn't be a problem following multiple markets/events. I can't see your 'First back bet' from the s/shot. Can you send a s/shot from the strategy editor?

    Regarding getting the bet matched, there are various ways but of course the easiest is to just place it at the current best back odds. I sometimes set the back bet at the best lay bet -1 tick to try and get a slightly better price if the price will naturally drift anyway. If I do, I'll add a Condition to check that there's a small(ish) spread between the Best Back & Lay prices....

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    @stuart-wallace-0 said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @fraser-cord Unmatched ?

    Check in Tools/Options/log and it should give you a list of trades.

    Turns out not, it didnt place the 1st back bet on VVV game. I had it set on 2 games that kicked off at the same time. Only placed the back bet on Sittard game (as it happened, the one that had a goal before 50 mins, but says its unmatched yet I made a profit so it must have been matched).
    It then placed the 2nd back bet on the VVV game at 50 mins having not placed the 1st at 30 mins. Can it only follow 1 market at a time?

    Also is there a way to ensure a bet gets matched. For example place the bet 1 tick below current price so its instantly taken even with a price move?

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    @fraser-cord said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    Thanks @Steven-Fletcher and @Terry-Heller

    Il test tomorrow but think i finally cracked it. It was jammed on horse racing markets so even when i was on a football market it thought i was still on horses. So when i tried to make the edits you suggested, i could only select win or place, no option for any football markets, wierd.

    So just deleted the strategy and reimported it, then made the suggested edits. Fingers crossed now.

    Been testing all week and the same problem has persisted twice now. The bot is not placing the 2nd back bet at 50 mins. Its placing the 1st at 30min, its cashing out if a goal goes in and its cashing out for a loss at 70 mins.

    Here is the report from todays game, its saying its executing the 2nd back bet but its not been placed. Any ideas?

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    @steven-fletcher & @Chris-Osborne Thanks for this. I'll look to experiment with it in the next few days:thumbs_up:

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    @steven-fletcher said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @stephen-beale said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    Hi, I was wondering how to operate the tennis strategy, pls? Like..do you just select all the tennis 'match odds' markets you can and apply the bot to all of them?

    I tried it a few days ago in simulation mode, but I kept getting an error message (can't remember exactly what it said -- something about scores being unavailable iirc)

    I've been having a heck of a time with the horses (I only really started in Jan and it's been a bit tough mentally and financially lol), so I figured getting the tennis bot set up and ticking along might be a really good thing to do

    Any help greatly appreciated!!

    The Tennis bot works in the Match Odds market but its not really something to run on all matches unless in simulation to get a feel for how it works. Like everything the selections fed into the bot are as important as the automtion

    It based on laying the favourite if the first set score gets to 4-4. If the first set goes to the fav it will red up for a loss. If the underdog wins you should be able to take the profit.

    Because of the way it works Fairbot wont be able to run the rule if the score data isnt avaliable

    Ive tested this in simulation mode but havent traded it

    To add, the favourites price at the start of the match should be no higher than 1.4

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    @stephen-beale said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    Hi, I was wondering how to operate the tennis strategy, pls? Like..do you just select all the tennis 'match odds' markets you can and apply the bot to all of them?

    I tried it a few days ago in simulation mode, but I kept getting an error message (can't remember exactly what it said -- something about scores being unavailable iirc)

    I've been having a heck of a time with the horses (I only really started in Jan and it's been a bit tough mentally and financially lol), so I figured getting the tennis bot set up and ticking along might be a really good thing to do

    Any help greatly appreciated!!

    The Tennis bot works in the Match Odds market but its not really something to run on all matches unless in simulation to get a feel for how it works. Like everything the selections fed into the bot are as important as the automtion

    It based on laying the favourite if the first set score gets to 4-4. If the first set goes to the fav it will red up for a loss. If the underdog wins you should be able to take the profit.

    Because of the way it works Fairbot wont be able to run the rule if the score data isnt avaliable

    Ive tested this in simulation mode but havent traded it

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    Hi, I was wondering how to operate the tennis strategy, pls? Like..do you just select all the tennis 'match odds' markets you can and apply the bot to all of them?

    I tried it a few days ago in simulation mode, but I kept getting an error message (can't remember exactly what it said -- something about scores being unavailable iirc)

    I've been having a heck of a time with the horses (I only really started in Jan and it's been a bit tough mentally and financially lol), so I figured getting the tennis bot set up and ticking along might be a really good thing to do

    Any help greatly appreciated!!

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    Thanks @Steven-Fletcher and @Terry-Heller

    Il test tomorrow but think i finally cracked it. It was jammed on horse racing markets so even when i was on a football market it thought i was still on horses. So when i tried to make the edits you suggested, i could only select win or place, no option for any football markets, wierd.

    So just deleted the strategy and reimported it, then made the suggested edits. Fingers crossed now.

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    @terry-heller same fix though!

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    @steven-fletcher Ahh explained much better with screenshots!

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    @fraser-cord
    Hi Fraser you could try applying the strategy to a match and then going to
    Strategy Editor then go to the
    First back bet rule and right click and select edit rule
    Goto the Action Tab
    Look at the action parameters and select 'other'
    You should then get a list of markets.....so select the O1.5
    Then the next where it says choose selection select 'By Name' from the drop down list there
    Then In the Selection drop down choose Over 1.5.
    When you apply the strategy to games afterwards those settings are remembered.
    So when leaving strategy editor click save changes when prompted
    Good luck

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    @fraser-cord for some reason its not pulling across the market info

    its easy enough to alter in strategy editor

    If you edit the to back rules to the below

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    Make sure you select Choose Market "Other" and then select OVER_UNDER_1.5

    Then for Choose Selection go for "By Name" and the select "Over 1.5 Goals"

    at the moment it looks like because the name and market arent matching it cant find the right market to fire

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    @steven-fletcher This was the error. I think its the same? Set on O 1.5 goals market

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    @steven-fletcher Thanks. Il give it a go later when I get a minute.

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