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    #341

    Hi, I'm new-ish here, and I really need to do automation because of the way my life is.

    I'm just wondering;

    Do all of the preset selections that Martin sends out in his daily email have bots for fairbot?

    I've looked on the BFBM page, and they have some different ones from the ones listed for Fairbot

    I was just wondering if I needed both lol

    *Quick edit; If Fairbot needs some of the horse preset strats made, I'm happy to have a crack at building themšŸ™‚

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    @steven-fletcher Just run it on the Oostend match worked like a charm,
    cheers Steven.

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    @ian-wylie said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @steven-fletcher @Dan-MacKinnon

    0_1672929972195_SHG v2.fs

    Hi guys, this might be of interest, it's one which Andrey at Fairbot helped me with and looks for a 2nd half goal but doesn't re-enter after a goal. The problem I was having was once a goal went in then the bot would trigger again and place a bet on the next overs and so on. The attached one will only enter once in the 2nd half.

    Thanks for that, its really interesting to see the ways that other solve the same problems. I had thought of putting multiple exclusions in but wasn't sure if that would make it to complicated so instead set the rule to only trigger in the first minute of the second half (my thinking was it was unlikely that there would be two goals in the first minute)

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    @steven-fletcher said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @dan-mackinnon said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @kevin-pepper good point. To be honest I misread it and didn't spot the pre-match odds of 1.4.

    I don't know how much tennis odds change pre-match, if it's like football you would just have to use your own research to identify which matches to trade. It's probably more of an issue with horse racing because there's so much movement beforehand.

    Interesting point though.

    appreciate it might not come up often but always good to try and come up with solutions which might help others

    Here is my go, uses a dummy rule initially to check the odds are in the right range and and the next rule then wont fire unless the first one has run successfully

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    0_1672923693513_Tennis tight first set.fs

    Great stuff Steven and as the recent posts show this can help give much more control with a number of bot strategies.
    Thanks

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    @steven-fletcher @Dan-MacKinnon

    0_1672929972195_SHG v2.fs

    Hi guys, this might be of interest, it's one which Andrey at Fairbot helped me with and looks for a 2nd half goal but doesn't re-enter after a goal. The problem I was having was once a goal went in then the bot would trigger again and place a bet on the next overs and so on. The attached one will only enter once in the 2nd half.

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    @dan-mackinnon said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @steven-fletcher I wonder if you could use a similar method for the SHG/ Late Goal strategy. Instead of the "Check Start Price" it could be 0 goals, 1 goal, 2 goals maybe?

    well here is the rule I've been working on for that

    It checks the score and then enters the corresponding overs market at the start of the second half

    so far its been working in simulation though I haven't started any live stakes testing yet

    0_1672929157675_SHG 2023.fs

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    @steven-fletcher I wonder if you could use a similar method for the SHG/ Late Goal strategy. Instead of the "Check Start Price" it could be 0 goals, 1 goal, 2 goals maybe?

    ā€œGreed moves the goalpostsā€ - Ryan Holiday

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    @steven-fletcher top work! I've updated the OP with this

    ā€œGreed moves the goalpostsā€ - Ryan Holiday

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    @dan-mackinnon said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @kevin-pepper good point. To be honest I misread it and didn't spot the pre-match odds of 1.4.

    I don't know how much tennis odds change pre-match, if it's like football you would just have to use your own research to identify which matches to trade. It's probably more of an issue with horse racing because there's so much movement beforehand.

    Interesting point though.

    appreciate it might not come up often but always good to try and come up with solutions which might help others

    Here is my go, uses a dummy rule initially to check the odds are in the right range and and the next rule then wont fire unless the first one has run successfully

    0_1672923619182_8d6f3612-b929-46cc-b773-c1efbb30b301-image.png

    0_1672923693513_Tennis tight first set.fs

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    @kevin-pepper good point. To be honest I misread it and didn't spot the pre-match odds of 1.4.

    I don't know how much tennis odds change pre-match, if it's like football you would just have to use your own research to identify which matches to trade. It's probably more of an issue with horse racing because there's so much movement beforehand.

    Interesting point though.

    ā€œGreed moves the goalpostsā€ - Ryan Holiday

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    @dan-mackinnon said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:

    @chris-osborne I had something similar which is why I kept putting automation off. You want to use automation to give you more free time, but don't have the free time to learn how to use it!

    I've created a test bot based on what you've said. I haven't tried it yet but hopefully it'll work

    0_1672663679521_Tennis 4-4.fs

    Hi Dan
    The bot looks fine to me. It lays the fav at 4-4 if their price is under 1.4 but it doesn't check that the fav price was below 1.4 at the start of the match. I can't think of any scenario where if the fav price is below 1.4 at 4-4 then they wouldn't have been the same at the start but it did get me thinking about how to carry out that check.
    My simple way would be to check the Fav lay price once the match goes in play and place a £1 lay bet at 1.01. Then I can add a condition at 4-4 to see if there's an unmatched 1.01 lay bet so I know the fav price was under 1.4 at the start.
    This seems a little clunky and there's always the chance that the 1.01 bet isn't placed if the in-play market is slow to form or/and the underdog is off to a flyer.
    So my question is - Does anyone have a different way of creating a rule to check whether a market should be traded later on when it's in-play?
    Thanks
    Kevin

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    Hello, everyone

    I would like to create a automated strategy for Scalping football matches pre match.
    Exactly the strategy of Ryan. Up a tick, down a tick.

    I made the first part, i said repeat on success but if take a loss?
    How to continue and place the new trade?

    anyone has an idea?0_1672866588384_scalp football.png

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    @martin to be honest I'd already built a version based on an earlier comment around a split stake which went 69, 74, 79, 84 with splits of £4, £3, £2, £1 so this one was just a tweaked version of that

    Its been fine in simulation mode but I wanted to find an actual strategy for live testing to make sure it works. If the trend of more stoppage time continues after the world cup I'd like to be able to add a late goals strategy to my portfolio

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    @steven-fletcher blimey you don't mess about do you!

    may have to use this one myself!

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    @steven-fletcher Cheers. Didnt realise you could click all 'unknowns' as only the 1st one was blue. Its working now as are all the others bots (amazing how everything works as intended once the idiot user presses the correct buttons)

    Really appreciate your help

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    @fraser-cord yep you need to add the horse name into your conditions so the rule knows to check that he horse you've selected meets all the conditions. if you click on where it says unknown underlined this should give you a drop down box

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    @martin said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    @martin said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

    Late Goal Split Stake:

    Man U v Bournemouth

    33% stake at 69:00 mins
    33% stake at 74:00 mins
    33% stake at 79:00 mins

    Rules:
    Back a goal at the set times above for 1/3 stake each time.
    Any scoreline.
    Keep entering even if a goal is scored between those set times.
    Odds on first entry 1.50+ minimum.

    These have been striking at around 66% win rate.

    Today's Selections:
    England Premier League 04/01/2023 20:00:00 Crystal Palace Tottenham
    Turkey Super Lig 04/01/2023 17:00:00 Galatasaray Ankaragucu

    not sure if anyone was following this from the football thread but i've had a go at automating.

    Its set up to use the over under markets and can been set up on any market that will run for the duration of the game

    Current staking it 0.33% each entry as it'd very much a work in progress but seemed to work last night for the United game

    0_1672826692091_Late Goals Split Stake - test.fs

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    @steven-fletcher Thanks

    Sorry didnt realise i can drag screens to make bigger etc. This is a screenshot from now. 0_1672825715240_f536a70c-4206-4823-bdd0-1ea25ece04c8-image.png

    I deliberately picked a race and horse that was within the odds range but as soon as it hit 10 mins before the start, the red condition error popped up.

    Just done the same here. This was 12 mins before start time
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    This was as soon as it hit 10 mins to start time
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    The horse selected was within the correct odds range. Any ideas?

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    @dan-mackinnon We can resolve this with execution times and time Fill or Kill. BUT what happened when the trade lose?

    Will bet again the bot or need another setting there?

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    @dan-mackinnon Im trying to figure out what happened when lose the trade and if change the odds in lower price.

    We have repeat in succes, ok BUT if lose the trade and we take a loss? How start again the bot?

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