BF Bot Manager

[A Former User]

@black-mk said in BF Bot Manager:

@martin-dodd said in BF Bot Manager:

However you can add multiple conditions so just add two, one to hedge on score and one to hedge on time

So I can set two Hedge condition in "OR" logic? not in "AND"?

Yes add two hedge conditions:

One for goal

One for time

[A Former User]

@martin-dodd said in BF Bot Manager:

However you can add multiple conditions so just add two, one to hedge on score and one to hedge on time

So I can set two Hedge condition in "OR" logic? not in "AND"?

[A Former User]

@black-mk said in BF Bot Manager:

How did you set strategy with 2 or plus Hedge conditions?
I think we need to go to multi strategies but I didn't understand how to set multi hedge.
Example of multi strategies:

1. strategy to bet @30 min if 0-0 on O1,5 market
2. strategy to bet @50 min if 0-0 on O1,5 market
3. Hedge if 1-0, 0-1 (and if we have strategy 1 or 2 bets) (green) [how I can set this strategy?]
4. Hedge if @70 min and 0-0 (red) [how I can set this strategy?]

For something like split stake I’d do it as two separate bots one that bets at 30mins if 0-0 another one that bets on 50min if 0-0. Each the hedge individually, the sum of which gets you the overall result.

The hedging has options to hedge on score or time. They don’t seem to work for me if I have multiple options within one condition. However you can add multiple conditions so just add two, one to hedge on score and one to hedge on time

[A Former User]

How did you set strategy with 2 or plus Hedge conditions?
I think we need to go to multi strategies but I didn't understand how to set multi hedge.
Example of multi strategies:

1. strategy to bet @30 min if 0-0 on O1,5 market
2. strategy to bet @50 min if 0-0 on O1,5 market
3. Hedge if 1-0, 0-1 (and if we have strategy 1 or 2 bets) (green) [how I can set this strategy?]
4. Hedge if @70 min and 0-0 (red) [how I can set this strategy?]

[A Former User]

@martin-dodd said in BF Bot Manager:

@black-mk
Yes, its pretty much as you say.
I export one CSV per BTC filter...this includes the Betfair Event ID.

I reformat this slightly into the following format ready to upload to BFBM. These seem to be the fields BFBM require. You can create one CSV per strategy or you can combine them into a single CSV with multiple strategies.

These get imported through the Manage Tips function in BFBM


Tip: If you are unsure about the format of CSV to upload via "Manage Tips" then in the list of markets in BFBM, manually tick one selection (e.g. Under0.5goals in one match) and then export "My Selections" to a CSV and this will give you the format of the file you should use to upload...at least that how I learned what BFBM needed!

Then, in BFBM I have my strategies set up to bet on selections listed for each one. e.g. for First Half Goals it looks for selections with a reference "FHG_v2", for Lay the Draw "LTD_v1", etc. You can call them what you like so long as they match the reference in the CSV you imported.

Sounds long winded but probably only takes 5mins once you know what you're doing.

Wow! I will try this in the next days

[A Former User]

@martin-dodd Good to know. I have several strat's on UK horses when a horse appeared in more than one strat, it got difficult with BFBM. I might give it another try when we get sport back.

[A Former User]

@neil-mallett
Yes. I’ve had 3 or 4 strats running on the same selection when testing entry points.

Be careful if the market moves quick though (I.e. in play horses) as you may not have enough time for the bot to cycle through all markets and strategies before the odds have moved past your offer.

[A Former User]

@martin-dodd is using the 'import tips' function the solution to enabling multiple strats on the same runner?

[A Former User]

@black-mk
Yes, its pretty much as you say.
I export one CSV per BTC filter...this includes the Betfair Event ID.

I reformat this slightly into the following format ready to upload to BFBM. These seem to be the fields BFBM require. You can create one CSV per strategy or you can combine them into a single CSV with multiple strategies.

These get imported through the Manage Tips function in BFBM


Tip: If you are unsure about the format of CSV to upload via "Manage Tips" then in the list of markets in BFBM, manually tick one selection (e.g. Under0.5goals in one match) and then export "My Selections" to a CSV and this will give you the format of the file you should use to upload...at least that how I learned what BFBM needed!

Then, in BFBM I have my strategies set up to bet on selections listed for each one. e.g. for First Half Goals it looks for selections with a reference "FHG_v2", for Lay the Draw "LTD_v1", etc. You can call them what you like so long as they match the reference in the CSV you imported.

Sounds long winded but probably only takes 5mins once you know what you're doing.

[A Former User]

@black-mk hi mate, I'm only using Bet Angel at the mo and not sure you can add via excell or .csv file etc

To be fair loading manually on Bet Angel doesn't take that long... I was loading 20 odd games on a Saturday for 25% Split Stake and I wouldn't say it was tedious at all.

[A Former User]

@martin-dodd said in BF Bot Manager:

@alan-steward said in BF Bot Manager:

Anybody still using BF Bot Manager and having success with it?

Obviously there is much football to use it on but maybe with the horses, scalping of Lay The Field.

Also has anybody using BF Bot Manager previously or is jointly used/using Bet Angel and have a preference between the two?

Cheers

I had BFBM running some of the football member filters (FHG, LTD & Split Stake, etc)...worked quite nice especially after Adam added Betfair event IDs to the csv exports...load them up at the start of the day and let them do their thing. They have some in play data (for free) such as shots, corners, cards, etc and you can also pay for a different in play data service if your stategies rely on that.

BetAngel does also have automation but I find it harder to use as it's a bit more fiddly to set up...BetAngel is much better if you use a trading ladder though

How do you apply different strategies on selections? You export 2 or more filters from BTC, merge csv, then import all selections in BFBM and then specify IDs on every BTBM strategy?

[A Former User]

I used BA well before trying BFBM and found most of it very easy to use, I find creating a bot very simple. Then when I tried BFBM it seemed really hard to use, I did eventually suss out how to do what I wanted to do but found it hard going. BFBM has some great features not found in BA though, being able to filter on horse racing course going's is a notable one. A big downside of BFBM though is that you can only have one strategy per horse, whilst using BA you can have endless strategies on any horse.
Horses for courses as the saying goes.

[A Former User]

@alan-steward said in BF Bot Manager:

Anybody still using BF Bot Manager and having success with it?

Obviously there is much football to use it on but maybe with the horses, scalping of Lay The Field.

Also has anybody using BF Bot Manager previously or is jointly used/using Bet Angel and have a preference between the two?

Cheers

I had BFBM running some of the football member filters (FHG, LTD & Split Stake, etc)...worked quite nice especially after Adam added Betfair event IDs to the csv exports...load them up at the start of the day and let them do their thing. They have some in play data (for free) such as shots, corners, cards, etc and you can also pay for a different in play data service if your stategies rely on that.

BetAngel does also have automation but I find it harder to use as it's a bit more fiddly to set up...BetAngel is much better if you use a trading ladder though

[A Former User]

Im looking at automated trading so following this thread with interest as BF Bot Manager was one I was looking at.

[A Former User]

Anybody still using BF Bot Manager and having success with it?

Obviously there is much football to use it on but maybe with the horses, scalping of Lay The Field.

Also has anybody using BF Bot Manager previously or is jointly used/using Bet Angel and have a preference between the two?

Cheers

[A Former User]

@matt-dadley sort I should have posted that but was in a rush....hope it works

[A Former User]

Thank you so much

[A Former User]

[A Former User]

Thank you Martin.

I should ask about the location of 'Market status change settings' and 'Price movement - Steamer/Drifter' as well because they probably aren't where I think.

Thanks in advance.

Matt

[A Former User]

@matt-dadley
It's in Selection Conditions