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Are these the only selections to be able to check live prices on because I'm looking for HT under and over prices, also can I use the Betfair live prices in any way in any of my strategy filters.

Sorry for all these questions, I've only used the software for basic operations but now I'm getting into this more I want to learn and use as much of it as possible for my strategies.

Adam

@Simon-Bates The "Odds" section of the historical stats is not the current Betfair prices. It's the historical results converted to odds format (e.g. 50% would convert to odds of 2.0).

If you're looking for the live Betfair odds, there's a tab at the top called "Live Betfair Prices" which is updated every 5 mins.

Martin

@Simon-Bates it's last price matched, so assumedly at that time 10.0 was the last price actually matched.

I'll tag @Adam so he can answer about frequency

Simon Bates

@Martin, on your software the odds section, how often is this updated against Betfair and/or is it just a rough guidance for odds on there, 2 reasons why im asking, firstly I'm going on holiday soon and won't be able to get on Betfair to keep recording odds data for my strategies but I'll be able to come on here to get them, and secondly when I've checked Betfair just now against your software odds they are quite some way out from each other, so just needed to know if I could rely on the odds given in your software.

Richard Latimer

@Fraser-cord I'd argue that technically English players are better now. Yes we had flare players, yes we had midfield destroyers and players who could do everything like Gerrard.

But the majority of our players were not technically great. They played alongside technically great players but they weren't generally the best of the best barring a couple of exceptions.

We have far more of those players now. The main man at Madrid, the best passer of a ball in England and potentially Europe, one of the best right wingers in the world who will only get better.

One of the main men in a midfield/attack that recently bought the Champions League and it's 4th title in 4 years.

Declan Rice who has been described as a unicorn by a football analyst I follow on twitter. Can play 6 and 8 equally well.

John Stones who under Pep will constantly play it out from the back beating the press and then move into midfield as and when.

That's over half a team of players who could probably be in the conversation for World Class.

We just need a manager who is forward thinking, not too afraid to lose that he won't try and win. Values posession and asks us to keep it from keeper to striker. Also one who insists his striker presses from the front as all good teams now do.

One who will favour balance of the team over getting all his favourites in from the start.

Fraser cord

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@Richard-Latimer agree with this. People also seem to forget how fortunate he has been in each tournament draw. Look at the run in he has had over the years. Playing the likes of ukraine, Colombia and Denmark to get to a semifinals/finals then Slovakia, Switzerland and a average dutch team this year. Making very hard work of most of these matches also. If we were on the other side of the draw we would of done well to get past the quarter finals based on our performances. Always seems to avoid the top teams. After the Italy final I thought that should have been enough with Southgate. He deserves credit for getting England deep in tournaments but against most top teams he has not found a way and get the best out of a very talented squad.

A very good point the media chose to constantly overlook. It's not been England or Southgates fault, but the reason previous England teams have been less successful is exactly that. The teams of the mid 2000's had no less talent, just had to play the better teams. And England have been very fortunate in avoiding them under Southgate. But when they eventually meet, same result.

Credit to him for getting England close, but in reality they were no closer than before, just had a more favourable route.

England need a manager that matches the ability of the players. Southgate has done many things well as England manager but was way short on the most important one. If he takes another managerial job, it will be about his level, Championship or there abouts.

Richard Latimer

@Stephen-Hancox came very close to scoring in the EURO'S didn't he.

The other thing he's amazing at is chasing back, nicking the ball away, reading what players are going to do and intercepting the ball. Mopping up danger before it even starts.

Stephen Hancox

@Richard-Latimer Best things about Rice I like are when he's driving forward and often when the ball is free on the edge of the box I'm hoping it falls to him as he's pretty nifty at long shots.

Craig vaulks

@Richard-Latimer it is worrying even in a free hit against Slovenia Gordon was brought on with 5minutes left. As I've said all along the front 3/4 does not work with his system, Spain had 2 youngsters in yamal and Williams causing all kinds of problems yet Southgate has the likes of palmer, gordon, etc. Who can run at teams but does not use them anywhere near enough in my opinion.

Richard Latimer

@Craig-vaulks He deserves credit for making people interested again, the social messages he sent out when racial abuse reared it's ugly head, the protection he gave his squad and how he made it an attractive proposition to play for England again.

Up to a point.

Now it's clear that some team members won't be enjoying it any more.

Toney, Gordon, Trent, Wharton?

Ben White won't even allow himself to be picked. Who's next if he stays?