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FHG = First Half Goal
SHG = Second Half Goal
LTD = Lay The Draw
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@Martin Also completely different topic. Was listening to your podcast the other day about making sure you do further research on your shortlisted trades before you enter.
I confess I was doing very little of that and no surprise that have been going round in circles with some of my strategies recently.
Question to you and everyone really, for goal based set and forgets, what do people look at (as their additional research) on trades before you enter?
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@Martin Yeh still think PSG will have too much for both Bayern and Real.
Interesting who progresses on the other side. I was planning to fully green up after quarter finals on Chelsea. Might only do a partial green up now. Al Hilal look a big price at 18s tho.
Can see them winning quarter final and that in itself should bring odds down. Think they’ll have a solid chance in semis as well.
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I think the Club World Cup has been predictable. Some great trading opportunities
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@Andy-Donnelly said in *****New Football Thread*****:
Draw seems to have opened up for Chelsea at the world club cup. Whether they are good enough to take advantage of it remains to be seen tho.
Odds should come in if they beat Benfica and then Palmerias/Botafogo so could be a trade there. Also possible that draw opens up further if Inter or Man City don’t win their last games.
Got in myself just after Bayern lost yesterday at around 22. Already down to 15.
Great back to lay this! Well done
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@Andy-Donnelly not been impressed with Chelsea yet but will see what happens! Interesting that one of those 4 will make the semis
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Draw seems to have opened up for Chelsea at the world club cup. Whether they are good enough to take advantage of it remains to be seen tho.
Odds should come in if they beat Benfica and then Palmerias/Botafogo so could be a trade there. Also possible that draw opens up further if Inter or Man City don’t win their last games.
Got in myself just after Bayern lost yesterday at around 22. Already down to 15.
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@Akiva-Anderson said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@Martin said in *****New Football Thread*****:
Hard to know what to make of this Club World Cup so far! Some European teams not doing that well are they, considering the apparent level of opposition. Seem to be taking it fairly seriously.
It won’t get good until the knockout stages.
Glad to see the non-European teams doing well, think it's good for the competition.
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@Martin said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@Akiva-Anderson has Republic of Ireland always been so low scoring? had so many 1-0 or 0-0 results recently, I always thought of it as a decent goals league.
Yeah, not a lot of SHG’s either. It’s not my favourite league to watch. I much prefer Northern Ireland.
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@Martin said in *****New Football Thread*****:
Hard to know what to make of this Club World Cup so far! Some European teams not doing that well are they, considering the apparent level of opposition. Seem to be taking it fairly seriously.
It won’t get good until the knockout stages.
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@Alex-Rendell great analysis, thanks for that!
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@Martin "Over the last 5 seasons, the number of goals per game has fluctuated. For example, in 2020, the average was 2.41 goals per game, while in 2021, it was 2.48 goals per game. In 2022, the average goals per game was 2.36. The 2023 season saw a slight increase to 2.53 goals per game, and 2024 saw a decrease to 2.28 goals per game." - quick AI search gave me this, so it may not be fully accurate but it isn't far off;
So the top tier in Ireland is generally over 0.2 goals per game below the worldwide average, which ties in with the fact that it doesn't appear very often on my own personal trading strategies (which look for goals).
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@Andy-Donnelly said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@Martin Think City’s price could drop a bit. Don’t think they’ll win it but have a relatively straight forward draw so could make semis without breaking sweat. Agree think PSG odds are still likely to come down from the currrnt price point.
Yeah always good to have a good look at the draws, price will shorten if they make semi surely
