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*****New Football Thread*****

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Football Trading
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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by Martin
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    Welcome to the new football trading main thread!

    Keep all of your football trading discussion in here!

    Not sure where to start with football trading? Take a look at our beginners guide: https://betfairtradingcommunity.com/en/blog/football-trading-ultimate-trading-start-guide

    We have written a guide on what to consider before following any trades, this is a must read before following any trades below: https://betfairtradingcommunity.com/en/blog/football-trading-betfair-essentials

    FHG = First Half Goal
    SHG = Second Half Goal
    LTD = Lay The Draw
    LCS = Lay Current Score

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  • RyanR Online
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    Bloody ell Brentford have done it again and found another gem, fascinating story Brentford, I have gone deep into the rabbit hole of both them and Brighton and their owners and their betting set ups!

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    Stephen Hancox
    replied to Adam last edited by
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    @Adam I tend to place 7am ish

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    Alex Rendell
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    @Adam based on my current setup, I'd say its usually around 15-20 mins pre-kick off, but I definitely like to know the morning prices at around 7-8am on the day of the fixture also.

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  • AdamA Offline
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    Adam btc team
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    @Everyone

    Question for footy traders who bet pre-match:

    What's the earliest you would ever generally enter a trade or place a pre-match bet?

    As soon as the match appears on Betfair?
    As soon as liquidity is decent (e.g. small spread or certain amount traded)?
    1 day before the match?
    When the squad is announced?
    Just before kick-off?

    Let me know πŸ‘

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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    Alastair Todd
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    @james-everard I have been using the stats a lot more to get an idea of first goal times which then drives whether or not I put the full stake on from the start. I usually try to put a half stake on at a sensible time (from the stats) and then set up two quarter stakes to drip in shortly after.

    I'm certainly no expert but I got tired of putting the whole stake on at KO only to find that the first goal comes in 20 mins later and I could have got a much better price. It doesn't always work of course but I reckon that I am getting a higher overall average price by drip feeding. The stats are key though - as @martin keeps saying!

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    @Alastair-Todd said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @james-everard I have been mostly sticking to my O1.5 goal strategy as my FHG filter was losing me money consistently so I binned it! I may try the back over 2.5 goals with a view to trading out as odds decay.

    However, full disclosure, I have been 'taking action' and doing a little matched betting on the side with the bookies that I never opened the first time round. There are also a surprisingly high number of price boosts which allow some small and consistent profits.

    Need to stay grounded though, and yesterday's three losing trades did that with a big fat 'red' for the first day of 2026.

    Good luck this year.

    HI Alastair i was trading an over 1.5 fh goal strategy at one point , what i always seem to find you have months of paper trading with consistent profits then you start trading it is a disaster. So far this month i started a new system after 6 months of profit paper trading ( BTTS ) and guess what 5 losses out of 5 so far very annoying!
    That's a good idea with regards to the match betting something i could potential look at in the future.
    What over 1.5 goal strategy are you doing is it at kick off or a split stake ?

    https://1drv.ms/x/s!AgAENvh6njGR8wT6kcGOYgHyGFQq?e=Zo3Tic

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    Alastair Todd
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    @james-everard I have been mostly sticking to my O1.5 goal strategy as my FHG filter was losing me money consistently so I binned it! I may try the back over 2.5 goals with a view to trading out as odds decay.

    However, full disclosure, I have been 'taking action' and doing a little matched betting on the side with the bookies that I never opened the first time round. There are also a surprisingly high number of price boosts which allow some small and consistent profits.

    Need to stay grounded though, and yesterday's three losing trades did that with a big fat 'red' for the first day of 2026.

    Good luck this year.

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    james everard
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    @Alastair-Todd Congratulations on your successful increase in your bank in such a short space of time that is tremendous work.
    I started my back BTTS yesterday 4 trades all 4 lost! Although my two back the homes won so just a small loss for the start of the month.
    What systems are you trading mate ?

    https://1drv.ms/x/s!AgAENvh6njGR8wT6kcGOYgHyGFQq?e=Zo3Tic

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    james everard
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    @Martin happy new year Martin

    https://1drv.ms/x/s!AgAENvh6njGR8wT6kcGOYgHyGFQq?e=Zo3Tic

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin last edited by
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    @Everyone happy new year! Let's hope for a profitable 2026!!!

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    Shannon Townsend
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    @Alastair-Todd worse day i have had on LTD for a while...

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    Happy New Year all. Having increased my Bank from Β£300 at the start of September to Β£1900 at the end of December, I thought things were going reasonably well.

    Welcome to 2026 - three of my five trades lost today which was a pretty big kick in the teeth! The PL teams must have had a hangover. Oh well, the only way is up!

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    Terry Cooke
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    Merry Christmas all!

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin last edited by
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    Hope you all have a great Christmas! Looking forward to another year of trading with you all.

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    @Martin said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Alastair-Todd quite interesting that 'match me' anyone been using it?

    Not me, that's for sure. It always seems to want to give you a lower back price than you can get if you wait.

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
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    @Alastair-Todd quite interesting that 'match me' anyone been using it?

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    Alastair Todd
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    Does anyone know if Betfair Exchange has changed their backing procedure for some reason? I can change the lay odds up and down as usual but the back odds seem to be set at what they are at the moment. In other words I don’t seem to have the ability to β€˜stage’ my entry into the market as the odds increase and I have to settle for what the odds are at this minute?

    I now realise it's all about the 'Match Me' toggle switch...I'll get my coat!

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  • RyanR Online
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    Ryan
    replied to Martin last edited by
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    @Martin I think you need to get booked in at spec savers πŸ˜‰

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    Martin btc team
    replied to Ryan last edited by
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    @Ryan looked a fairly even game to me

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