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    Mr. Emmet Moorehouse
    replied to Mark Maguire on last edited by Mr. Emmet Moorehouse
    #2941

    @Mark-Maguire I have an in play filter which I am testing. It applies where there is a game with either zero or one goal at half time but where there is an expectation of an 85% chance of +0.5G at FT or an 80% chance of a +1.5G at FT. Heidenheim V Bochum was on the list, so it got me too. The bit that has me kicking myself is that I did not implement my own rules about using the in play stats as a guideline for deciding whether to take the trade or not.

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    Mr. Emmet Moorehouse
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    In a previous post, I also mentioned I was working on a +1.5G filter.

    The basic idea is one I either stole from Martin or stole from discussions around one of the set and forgets- it is definitely not mine.

    But what I wanted to do was to take a very simple idea and see what can be gained from tinkering with it.

    The original basic idea is as follows:

    784d1209-2565-47f9-b2b2-16d2bff764ac-image.png

    Over the last 111 games, it has a strike rate of 80% and average odds of 1.34.

    I decided to increase the FT +2.5 criterion to greater than or equal to 50%. This reduced the number of selections to exactly 100 but increased the strike rate to 84%, with a slight drop in the average odds to 1.338.

    I'll come back in a few hundred selections to see where we stand.

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    Mr. Emmet Moorehouse
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    #2943

    @Scott-Higgins said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Mr-Emmet-Moorehouse lovely results, how many points profit?

    I only did about half of them but I ended about 2 points up on this filter.

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    Mark Maguire
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    Decent day despite the nil nil in Germany which I blame myself for because league positions being tight is a warning sign I ignored.

    LTD

    Gorica vs Rudes✅
    Anderlecht vs RWDM✅

    01.5

    Alkmaar vs Volendam✅
    Sarpsborg vs Molde✅

    02.5 Split Stake

    Anderlecht vs RWDM✅
    Heidenheim vs Bochum❌
    Alkmaar vs Volendam✅

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    A Former User
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    @Mr-Emmet-Moorehouse lovely results, how many points profit?

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    Mr. Emmet Moorehouse
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    @Mr-Emmet-Moorehouse said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Hello all,

    In a post a few days ago, I wrote about a SHG filter I have been working on, and I said at the time that I would post some details.

    Here is the SHG filter that I have been working on- so far we are at a strike rate of about 83% over 200+ games.

    I still regard this as a work in progress but I do get the feeling that it is close to where it needs to be.

    Please note that is is not a set and forget filter- the aim is to get in based on the in play stats and the odds.

    It is best if I present the filters without getting into my thought process, as this will allow people to take their own view:

    9ecc55d7-a72e-493e-bbe1-5321c07bb0fd-image.png

    The above has had a strike rate of about 83% over the last 200 games.

    When filtering the data, I found a way to increase the strike rate.

    The updated filter is as follows:

    813442b2-5a84-427c-8c87-30a0b1dbd91a-image.png

    The change in the first criteria increases the strike rate to 86%, but over a reduced sample of about 100 games.

    It should be noted that during the testing period, we have had an international break, so going forward it will obviously be producing far more selections.

    Coming back from the international break, this weekend's trading may be a bit tricky. But that aside, the next month or two will be important for this filter.

    An update on how this filter did over the weekend- 26 SHGS out of 30.

    Germany 3. Liga 25/11/2023 13:00 Ingolstadt RW Essen 0
    Germany Bundesliga 25/11/2023 14:30 Dortmund B. Monchengladbach 1
    Germany Bundesliga 25/11/2023 14:30 SV Werder Bremen Bayer Leverkusen 1
    England Premier League 25/11/2023 15:00 Nottingham Brighton 1
    Northern Ireland Nifl Premiership 25/11/2023 15:00 Coleraine C. Rangers 1
    England National League 25/11/2023 15:00 Gateshead Southend 1
    Scotland Premiership 25/11/2023 15:00 Dundee FC Hibernian 1
    England League Two 25/11/2023 15:00 Grimsby Town Sutton 0
    England League Two 25/11/2023 15:00 Wrexham Morecambe 1
    England Premier League 25/11/2023 15:00 Burnley West Ham 1
    Netherlands Eredivisie 25/11/2023 15:30 Excelsior Feyenoord 1
    Turkey Super Lig 25/11/2023 16:00 Galatasaray Alanyaspor 1
    Czech Republic FORTUNA:LIGA 25/11/2023 17:00 Slavia Prague Ceske Budejovice 1
    Switzerland Super League 25/11/2023 17:00 Luzern Winterthur 1
    Belgium Jupiler Pro League 25/11/2023 17:15 Charleroi Westerlo 1
    Netherlands Eredivisie 25/11/2023 17:45 Twente PSV 1
    Denmark Superliga 25/11/2023 18:00 Viborg FC Copenhagen 1
    France Ligue 2 25/11/2023 18:00 Bastia Auxerre 0
    Poland Division 1 25/11/2023 18:15 Lublin R. Rzeszow 1
    Germany 2. Bundesliga 25/11/2023 19:30 Dusseldorf Schalke 1
    Ecuador Liga Pro 25/11/2023 23:00 Dep. Cuenca EL Nacional 1
    South Korea K League 2 26/11/2023 6:00 Sangju Sangmu Seoul E. 0
    Spain Laliga 26/11/2023 13:00 Villarreal Osasuna 1
    Netherlands Eredivisie 26/11/2023 13:30 AZ Alkmaar Volendam 1
    Switzerland Super League 26/11/2023 15:30 Servette Grasshoppers 1
    Switzerland Super League 26/11/2023 15:30 Basel St. Gallen 1
    Austria Bundesliga 26/11/2023 16:00 Rapid Vienna BW Linz 1
    Norway Eliteserien 26/11/2023 16:00 Lillestrom Odd 1
    Norway Eliteserien 26/11/2023 16:00 Sarpsborg 08 Molde 1
    Poland Division 2 26/11/2023 16:30 LKS Lodz II Wisla Pulawy 1

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    Richard Latimer
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    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Very very slow weekend even if I was taking all my selections. One today. Lay under 1.5 Hoffenheim:

    de8d94d9-9375-4438-8bd6-c7e09301b5a1-image.png

    That's weird. 1-1 and betfair still have it is inplay. Useless twats!

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    A Former User
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    #2948

    @Mark-Maguire I’ll check it out.Ta

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    Mark Maguire
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    @Richard-Latimer agreed .. had something very special in terms of his man management

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    Mark Maguire
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    @Nick-Segura appreciate the message ..still learning plenty myself but limiting losses is huge for me... I've said elsewhere there is a brilliant book by a Stock Market trader Tom Hougaard called Best Loser Wins.. its about mentality and discipline but amongst the many good messages his clarity about 90% of traders in the markets being loss making largely because even though they have a good strike rate (of 70% plus) their losing trades are so much bigger than their winning trades that they end up in loss.. so focusing on reducing the impact of the (inevitable) losing trades and maximising the winning trades is just as important as a decent strategy .

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    @Mark-Maguire Hey, I read a few of your posts, we trade more or less the same markets. Just wanted to say thanks for sharing about your approach to trading in such detail, I picked up a few really interesting things around reducing liability and stop loss. Obvious things that I have ignored in the past. I went through my O1.5 spreadsheets for some backtesting and found out that implementing a stop loss when there's been no goals by HT would have made me a considerable amount of money. Fairly obvious but for some reasons I kept focusing on the wrong things. So, again, thanks for sharing in such detail.

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    Richard Latimer
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    RIP Venables. Another one very much out-of the blue.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Mark Maguire
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    Amongst mine today will be

    LTD

    Gorica vs Rudes
    Anderlecht vs RWDM

    01.5

    Alkmaar vs Volendam
    Sarpsborg vs Molde

    02.5 Split Stake

    Anderlecht vs RWDM
    Heidenheim vs Bochum
    Alkmaar vs Volendam

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    Richard Latimer
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    #2954

    Very very slow weekend even if I was taking all my selections. One today. Lay under 1.5 Hoffenheim:

    de8d94d9-9375-4438-8bd6-c7e09301b5a1-image.png

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Richard Latimer
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    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Just this lay under 1.5 for me tomorrow:

    b18be2f5-c8b4-4088-b7d6-71b62efd6fbc-image.png

    Will take up to price of 7.4. If it's over that I'll more than likely lay under 2.5 (max price 3.5 - leave unmatched to go inplay if 3.5 not available).

    Ends 1-2 so another win.

    Only one tomorrow for me. Lay under 1.5:

    6ace7ac9-704a-4648-a0f3-c6e1848637dd-image.png

    1-1 so green day

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Mark Maguire
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    #2956

    Thats me for the day.. decent day:

    LTD

    Chesterfield vs Eastleigh✅
    Olympiakos vs panetolikos✅
    lask vs Wattens✅

    01.5

    Wrexham vs Morecambe✅
    Freiburg vs Darmstadt✅
    Atletico vs Mallorca✅

    02.5 Split Stake out after 60 mins if no goal

    Zilina vs Kosice (will also be FHG trade)❌
    Luzern vs Winterhur✅
    Swindon vs Mansfield✅
    Bastia vs Auxerre❌

    FHG

    Ajax vs Vitesse✅
    Dortmund vs Mönchengladbach✅

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    Martin btc team
    replied to Mr. Emmet Moorehouse on last edited by
    #2957

    @Mr-Emmet-Moorehouse great work thanks for sharing!

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    Mark Maguire
    wrote on last edited by
    #2958

    Quite a lot to choose from today .. mine likely to include these:

    LTD

    Chesterfield vs Eastleigh
    Olympiakos vs panetolikos
    lask vs Wattens

    01.5

    Wrexham vs Morecambe
    Freiburg vs Darmstadt
    Atletico vs Mallorca

    02.5 Split Stake out after 60 mins if no goal

    Zilina vs Kosice (will also be FHG trade)
    Luzern vs Winterhur
    Swindon vs Mansfield
    Bastia vs Auxerre

    FHG

    Ajax vs Vitesse
    Dortmund vs Mönchengladbach

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    Mr. Emmet Moorehouse
    wrote on last edited by
    #2959

    Hello all,

    In a post a few days ago, I wrote about a SHG filter I have been working on, and I said at the time that I would post some details.

    Here is the SHG filter that I have been working on- so far we are at a strike rate of about 83% over 200+ games.

    I still regard this as a work in progress but I do get the feeling that it is close to where it needs to be.

    Please note that is is not a set and forget filter- the aim is to get in based on the in play stats and the odds.

    It is best if I present the filters without getting into my thought process, as this will allow people to take their own view:

    9ecc55d7-a72e-493e-bbe1-5321c07bb0fd-image.png

    The above has had a strike rate of about 83% over the last 200 games.

    When filtering the data, I found a way to increase the strike rate.

    The updated filter is as follows:

    813442b2-5a84-427c-8c87-30a0b1dbd91a-image.png

    The change in the first criteria increases the strike rate to 86%, but over a reduced sample of about 100 games.

    It should be noted that during the testing period, we have had an international break, so going forward it will obviously be producing far more selections.

    Coming back from the international break, this weekend's trading may be a bit tricky. But that aside, the next month or two will be important for this filter.

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    Dan MacKinnon
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    @Mr-Emmet-Moorehouse said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Akiva-Anderson If you crack the FHG market, you should get a BTC knighthood.

    The triple crown of BTC - S&F, SHG & FHG

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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