Fairbot Automation Discussion
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@connor-garland that is the one downside for Fairbot is that you can only run 1 bot per market at a time. The general approach is either open 2 versions of Fairbot, or create a bot with multiple strategies/ trades on it
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@connor-garland We were talking about this just yesterday lol
I'm very new to this too, and my understanding is that opening a new bot is the easiest way,
you just have to make sure you limit your data requests and keep them under 20 per second total across all your open bots
(Click Tools --> Options --> Data Refresh --> click it down to whatever you like)
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Hi guys,
I'm wondering if anyone can help me. I downloaded Fairbot yesterday and have been playing around with automating my in-play Football selections.
I can't seem to assign 2 strategies to the same market though, in this instance I'm trying to place a bet for another goal in the 70th and 80th minute. Most of the time it is only one strategy or the other on a given game but there are some games where I would trade both strategies.
Is this a case of creating another bot that will execute both of the trades?
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@kevin-pepper said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:
@stuart-wallace-0 said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:
Does anyone know what 'Smart Bets' is in the Stop Loss section of Action.?
Got a situation of an offset back bet which doesnt quite reach its required tick limit to invoke, then starts to go the other way, and then invokes the Trailing stop loss, ie looking at 2.06 to invoke (from 2.0) , it reaches 2.5 then gets TSL kicks in at 2.02 coming back down coz of the TSL which has invoked.
Any thoughts?I might be wrong but I think Smart Bets means the trade out bet is placed so you have a fixed profit/loss regardless of the result. If not chosen then you're trading out for a free bet/loss on the selection.
yeah that's my understanding
"FairBot offers so called "Smart Bets" that allow you to trade on Betfair with ease and the maximum possible speed. Using "Smart Bets", FairBot generates the required bets to make a profit, (if matched), regardless of the result."
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@stuart-wallace-0 said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:
Does anyone know what 'Smart Bets' is in the Stop Loss section of Action.?
Got a situation of an offset back bet which doesnt quite reach its required tick limit to invoke, then starts to go the other way, and then invokes the Trailing stop loss, ie looking at 2.06 to invoke (from 2.0) , it reaches 2.5 then gets TSL kicks in at 2.02 coming back down coz of the TSL which has invoked.
Any thoughts?I might be wrong but I think Smart Bets means the trade out bet is placed so you have a fixed profit/loss regardless of the result. If not chosen then you're trading out for a free bet/loss on the selection.
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@steven-fletcher Brilliant, tysm!!
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@stephen-beale yep thats the one, just make sure you number means across all windows you have less than 2, i go for 4 so i can have up to 5 windows open although rarely use above three
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@steven-fletcher Ah! Brilliant, thanks!! Opening a second fairbot sounds like the way to go for me at this stage
I found this (pic) in the Tools --> Options settings
Is that what we have to do to come under the data limits, or is there more to it?
Thanks for your help!!
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@stephen-beale said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:
Quick newbie question:
Can someone explain how to place two different types of bet on the same race, please --
E.g. if a race is selected as a Back The Favourite, and there's also a Lay At Short Odds selection for it, how do we place them both?I posted this a few days ago and it might be useful. Some of the screens dont relate to the specific rules you meantion but if you need further explanations or help just let me know and i'll try to help
While you can only apply 1 automation rule at a time I've found three work arounds so far for this
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Open more than one copy of the software. This is probably the easiest way. When you do this you get the message explaining that if you exceed 20 data requests per second you could incur data charges. If you go this route you need to update your settings.....in theory you could have 20 copies open as long as the data requests were limited to 1 per second. In practice i often have 3 copies open and have my data requests set to max of 4 per second.....if you need screens of this i can help with some of these later
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you can have a rule set up to open in a different market to the one which the rule is set on.....this doesnt work for all markets but is useful for the main ones.......
In my rule for second half goals the markets are specified to enter the overs market so these fire even though the rule is set up on the correct score market as below
- the third way to do it would be to copy and paste more than one rule into a super rule. This would probably be best on fairly simple rules
Here is an example is use on the horse racing win market that allows me to place both the Beaten Favourite and Pace Lays as an example
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@stephen-beale said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:
Quick newbie question:
Can someone explain how to place two different types of bet on the same race, please --
E.g. if a race is selected as a Back The Favourite, and there's also a Lay At Short Odds selection for it, how do we place them both?Two o[tions for me you can either ignore or take the action based on the odds of the strategy. i,e the lay at short odds is between 1.8 and 2.4 and the back the favourite lowest odds are 2.5 so there is no conflict
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Quick newbie question:
Can someone explain how to place two different types of bet on the same race, please --
E.g. if a race is selected as a Back The Favourite, and there's also a Lay At Short Odds selection for it, how do we place them both? -
@stuart-wallace-0 Thanks for that. It'll be a long time before my strategy is ready for any live testing but that's useful to know
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@caroline oh wow, that sounds pretty much exactly what I was dealing with haha
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@Caroline I am thinking at this stage I'll go with screenshots and then tell people what to do if there's an error message, some of the guys here might be able to help.
Sometimes it might be the support at the software you are using
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@stephen-beale
Thanks Stephen
I think I've sorted the first series of errors which was due to the fact that I didn't realise I had to insert horse name into both the horse name section and the price ...Haven't dared to do an unknown horse one yet. that is todays task
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@caroline If you post/describe your error message here, I'm sure we'll do our best to help!!
(I missed out on 4 days of automated bets because of error messages that I eventually worked out. It would be great to be able to help someone get set up with this stuff)
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@ryan
Can I suggest a step by step video for the really hard of understanding like me
Many thanks
I am trialling the bots currently but there is usually some kind of error message and it hasn't placed a bet. I am working my way through the issues but its not quite as automated as I had thought -
@terry-heller @Dan-MacKinnon thank you guys! I will drop you a message about this when I get to that point on my google doc!
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Hi, I’m having an issue on a couple of strategies (one, football and one tennis) where I’m trying to trade based on the current score. I’ve got it set up and it works fine but then the odd game will say condition error: live score unavailable (or something similar) in red under my automation rule. The trade won’t get placed. I don’t know why this happens as it is on some big markets like Man City v Wolves today and Aus Open tennis. Has anyone else had this problem? I can’t seem to see a pattern to why it is fine on some games and not others.
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@steven-fletcher said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:
@steven-fletcher said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:
@terry-heller said in Fairbot Automation Discussion:
Can someone please have a look at this and tell me what I have done wrong as it will select the correct market ok but places multiple bets on that market instead of the single bet that I want to place.
0_1674344924802_SHG upto 3.5.fsPS I am only running it in simulation mode
looking at the rule it seems like the logic is fine as the execution conditions should stop multiple re-entries.
If set it up on Sim Mode to have a look if i get the same results
@Terry-Heller ran your strategy and it worked as expected.....entered the second half with a single stake in four games (1 didn't match)
2 games saw a second half goal and the bot didnt re-enter
Maybe an issue with the simulation mode?
Thankyou Steven it could well be just a problem with simulation mode. It placed the bet I wanted on all the games that I had selected.....just 4 times on each and i wouldnt want to burn money 4 times as fast!
I will have to re run it tomorrow on one game in 'live mode' and see how that goes.
I still have plenty of time left on the free trial to make sure that it will do what i hoped it would.
Your reply has given me more confidence so once again many thanks
