Set & Forget Football Strategies
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@chris-king said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
@chris-osborne said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
@chris-king said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
Afternoon all. I was wondering if anyone is Trading Dan’s Lay The Draw? (not set and forgetting) and tracking the results?
@martin does with all the set and forgets see the results sheet on the thread. It took a downturn earlier this month mainly due to 90 minute equalisers in Serie A
Ah yes but was wondering if anyone is trading the selections, as in exiting when there is profit and tracking their progress
Apologies, I misunderstood your previous post. I’ve started doing so in the past few days, too early to be conclusive
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@chris-osborne said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
@chris-king said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
Afternoon all. I was wondering if anyone is Trading Dan’s Lay The Draw? (not set and forgetting) and tracking the results?
@martin does with all the set and forgets see the results sheet on the thread. It took a downturn earlier this month mainly due to 90 minute equalisers in Serie A
Ah yes but was wondering if anyone is trading the selections, as in exiting when there is profit and tracking their progress
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@chris-king said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
Afternoon all. I was wondering if anyone is Trading Dan’s Lay The Draw? (not set and forgetting) and tracking the results?
@martin does with all the set and forgets see the results sheet on the thread. It took a downturn earlier this month mainly due to 90 minute equalisers in Serie A
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Afternoon all. I was wondering if anyone is Trading Dan’s Lay The Draw? (not set and forgetting) and tracking the results?
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@liam-willis said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
regarding dans ltd there was a an 8 point loss in july, if it had been as popular then as it seems to be now there would have been the same worry and negativity. most strategies have a bad month or months add the world cup and as martin rightly points out the winter months then variance will no doubt rear its ugly head. martin is right a years data gives the whole picture but you could also drop down in stakes or paper trade until confidence rises, this goes for all strategies.
Exactly this!
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regarding dans ltd there was a an 8 point loss in july, if it had been as popular then as it seems to be now there would have been the same worry and negativity. most strategies have a bad month or months add the world cup and as martin rightly points out the winter months then variance will no doubt rear its ugly head. martin is right a years data gives the whole picture but you could also drop down in stakes or paper trade until confidence rises, this goes for all strategies.
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@dave-tancock said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
@martin thanks I will wait until there is a years date. It’s a shame as it did quite well last month. Although I did note the last 3 losers were all because of a 93rd minute equaliser.
I think the World Cup has had an effect plus I think the colder months can produce less goals.
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@dave-tancock I would leave it this month at least, probably wait for a years data myself now, eliminate bad times of year and bad leagues
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@martin-walker said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
@greg-mitchell hows this looking profit and loss wise
This is from the 1st October for Over 1.5 and Over 3.5, 1st Dec for the Draw:
But bear in mind that I haven't necessarily been using the same tactics throughout, I started off Set & Forget, but have now changed to trading out on all 3 Strategies if I can at a Green Up profit of 10% of my Liability (for Lays) or Potential Profit (for Backs).
I am just in the process of backtesting them all so that they are all the same either all S & F or all Traded Out.
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@nick-allan said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
@chris-osborne indeed chris, i might start looking at time of goals on the strategy to see if it worth coming out at 70, 80 min? i think some people have been looking at that, you might have as well i believe but ive been all over the place lately with this horrible flu
I'm thinking of using the same approach as Ryan's Betgreen which defeats the object of a S&F strategy but protects the bankroll
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@greg-mitchell hows this looking profit and loss wise
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@chris-osborne indeed chris, i might start looking at time of goals on the strategy to see if it worth coming out at 70, 80 min? i think some people have been looking at that, you might have as well i believe but ive been all over the place lately with this horrible flu
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@nick-allan said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
@martin said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
Looking at Dan's LTD it's interesting to see possible effect of mid-season World Cup, Serie A was 9pts up before World Cup, since the World Cup it is 18pts down!
yeah loads of draws this month in that league, im still paper trading it to get an idea iof performance and potential drawdowns
Last minute equalisers in that league alone were brutal
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@martin said in Set & Forget Football Strategies - Community Collaboration Project:
Looking at Dan's LTD it's interesting to see possible effect of mid-season World Cup, Serie A was 9pts up before World Cup, since the World Cup it is 18pts down!
yeah loads of draws this month in that league, im still paper trading it to get an idea iof performance and potential drawdowns
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@Martin @Lee-woodman
I am keeping track of how the Filters perform when they have been allocated to one of my three main strategies and the points per filter alters accordingly, this is how it stands at the moment.
So, the left hand column is the filter from the Software, then which Master Strategy I have allocated it too. The Total is the number of trades that I have done using the Main Strategy that were identified by the filter, so for example the BTC - Martins Over 1.5 Goals - Backs has been used 161 times in my Back Over 1.5 Master Strategy and has been successful 133 (83%) of those.
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@greg-mitchell key is that the strategies are good ones, if you put three bad over 2.5 goals ones together then they are unlikely to be good for over 2.5 goals for example. I do have a combined strategy for goals, it’s great for late goals especially but not many picks at the moment.
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@greg-mitchell I personally don’t but I do like the thinking. There’s a perverse danger that the selections you end up with are so strong that the outcome is almost expected and the odds reflected accordingly
The good thing is you can test which is the most profitable way. If you compare the results of the refined list compared to the complete list over say 300 games then you will see whether it’s better or not. Also, if you can find a way to do this test but with flexibility in how you’ve refined it then that may help. You may say ‘well the refined list was better than the standard list however the could’ve refined it better by using x criteria instead of y’