Set & Forget Football Strategies
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@dave-tancock in fact here is a new filter with 5.8+ removed as even if results improve on those I don't think it's great to lay a team at 6 in football
Here is new filterfilter-settings (1).txt
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@james-everard I think Tomasz one I am going to open up all leagues and start testing it, not enough selections to have eliminated games and it will be interesting to see how results compare
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@dave-tancock yep odds range is 2.48-5.8 for me
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For the the new lay away strategy I have just noticed a big junk of losing trades are odds below 2.5. If I remove the the strike rate goes up by 5% and the profit goes up by 13-14points. Just wondering if any one else has got similar results?
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Had a check of this month's results of the set and forgets . Bearing in mind how i trade is 2% of my bank so i will lay at the liabiality of £7.05 loss if the trade losses.
Tomaz Lay U1.5 goals (odds under 3.5)
Trades 10
won 5
lost 5
s/rate 50%
Loss so far July -£15.67The Lay over 3.5 Goals (odds under 3.50)
Trades 16
won 8
lost 8
s/rate 50%
Loss so far July -£4.07Back over 1.5 goals (odds 1.25-1.35)
Trades 38
Won 26
lost 12
s/rate 68.42
Loss so far July £-31.63So the back over 1.5 system clearly isn't working anymore even where i have tightened it up by looking at the h2h results. I will stop trading and start recording how profitable it would be the trading backing under 1.5 goals
Tomaz lay u1.5 goals isn't really providing many matches and £15.76 down after 10 trades so think i will scrap this also.
Going to stick with the lay over 3.5 goals early days so far and only a small loss -
@Martin HI all just back from work for lunch and catching up on the thread. I have been trading the set and forgets still but don't think they have been profitable this month.
I am going to the gym straight after work but when i get back i shall provide details of this months trades and will probably decide tonight whether they will be worth continuing or not.
If they are not profitable and losing lots maybe time to turn the strategy around and do the opposite trade -
@John-Malloy so everyone has the opportunity to download it and use it, I don't really see the issue of getting rid of strategies that aren't working really well. Remember a lot of people will follow these selections blind even though I advise against that, so it's important that they are performing well. Like I said I dropped it from my own personal trading so that's my main reason for dropping it out of the rotation but that does not hinder anyone else using it.
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@John-Malloy I used and tracked the O1.5 strategy for 6 months and didn’t get a single profitable month. I did look at all sorts of ways to improve it but couldn’t, so from my experience it’s correct to remove it from the BTC “approved” list. Will revisit it when backtesting becomes available to see what’s possible.
However if it’s been working for you then as Karl says you have the tools to still continue with it.
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@John-Malloy said in Set & Forget Football Strategies:
@Martin I was also surprised to see that the over 1.5 was being canned.... especially as "you thinked it dipped" surely you need to track everything before canning a strategy? It was breaking even after the world cup, but from April I have it at 85% sr, thats 57 wins and only 8 losses, and also if you go slightly into May includes a 31 match winning streak... it's these moments that fill me with a little doubt about btc... sorry
John...keep trading it then!!
At the end of the day this about YOUR trading!
I use BTC for my shortlist and then do my own research to decide if I want to risk my money!
I am currently struggling a bit with people criticising others as to me BTC gives me the tools and research at the touch of a few buttons, maybe some expect a list of winners everyday but that's never realistic.
Good Luck and I hope this strategy keeps Winning for you! -
@Martin I was also surprised to see that the over 1.5 was being canned.... especially as "you thinked it dipped" surely you need to track everything before canning a strategy? It was breaking even after the world cup, but from April I have it at 85% sr, thats 57 wins and only 8 losses, and also if you go slightly into May includes a 31 match winning streak... it's these moments that fill me with a little doubt about btc... sorry
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@Martin Hi Martin. Why has the over 1.5 strategy been removed? Has it been deemed unprofitable or just a loss of interest? I've saved it anyhow as per today's mail but was after some reassurance. I really enjoy the Set and Forgets - won't have the time to trade. All the best, Ed
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@dave-tancock depends how many games they have left, less than 5 games left would concern me, mind you Over 3.5 lays and Lay Away I've just traded all the selections regardless of if the season is ending. If they do fine in that period I'd maybe cut just last game or two
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Hi Martin,
Maybe you already explained it but i want to build a automation bot for the New lay away strategie.
Can you tel me the rules for this strategie?
thanks for your help. If you already told it in a video or any can you ut the link so i can collect the gold.Thanks for sharing a new strategie i look forward to use it.
samo
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@Martin i know you normally say to avoid the last few games in a season. Are we getting to a point where you’d stop trading the summer leagues now or is it fine to carry on?
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@Arran-Shackell totally different strategies, ELO lay away is based on ELO ratings new lay away is based on points per game
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@Martin Hi - what is the difference now between ELO lay away in the pre set and the ‘new’ lay away? Been off the football side for 3-4 months and just got back in. Thanks.