Aug 2024 £3000 - ? Bank Challenge

[Richard Latimer]

Didn't get a chance to post here as busy but from the limited selection I was keeping an eye on Eastleigh qualified as a lay when they took the lead. They unfortunately took the lead again requiring a double down before they got one back and I was able to get out almost break even.

LTD on Valur v Stjarnan too which netted small profit.

Up very slightly on the day. All this id documented on the football trading thread.

[Richard Latimer]

@ryan-carruthers Yeah but like I say, when you remove the ones where goal scored 70 mins+ then it's 10 from 11 to have made a comeback so far.

Money to be made in laying but if the goal comes too late worth hanging on for 10-15 minutes before hopefully cashing out for profit. That's how it seems at the moment anyway.

[Ryan]

@richard-latimer Smart move on that, 13 of the 19 teams have done a come back - that's pretty startling!

[Richard Latimer]

LTD finished 100% today and only one lost even if they had been left to run.
Comeback lays hard work clawing back deficit every time the 2nd goal went against but still only a small loss after all that.
Backs a small loss again as 4 selections went for a 50/50 split.

[Richard Latimer]

Rules on sheet but from today if I have to get out of a LTD when underdog scores first and fave is at home with average pre kick off odds 1.95 or lower.... I will lay the away team. Cash out immediately after an equaliser on these.

[Richard Latimer]

After going back through my results it strikes me that there's still money to be made here.

Aside from the active lays I've been making through research when a side goes behid there are 19 such times when underdog has taken the lead in my HT LTD filter (odds of fave 1.95 or under as per oddsportal). Of these 19, 13 of the homes teams have mounted a come back and of those 13 only 1 has gone on to lose in the dying seconds.

For the 6 that didn't come back only once was it from a position early in the 2nd half where liability would be larger (not insurmountable for sure, I'm doing it all the time as is). 1 of the losing 6 came in the 89th minute. Of course at this point you ccould well decide another goal was highly unlikley and skipt it but the liability would be small anyway it's almost worth a throw of the dice there.

The remaining 4 came around 70-75 minute mark and again you are going to be looking at some short odds lays there.

Think from now on, not only will I get out immediately if the odds on (1.95 or below) favourite goes behind but also I will be placing a lay of the away team immediately.

[Richard Latimer]

@richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

A good day on Saturday in the end. Sorting list of tomorrows but meantime LTD in Toronto game on right now.

Another where I had to leave on a slight loss after the first goal.

[Richard Latimer]

A good day on Saturday in the end. Sorting list of tomorrows but meantime LTD in Toronto game on right now.

[Richard Latimer]

For today. Rules on sheet in signature.

[Richard Latimer]

Tiny tiny green but stops the rot again.

[Richard Latimer]

Recently I've become way too impulsive again on following/adapting all the newest and latest ideas I come across, to the detriment of what was beginning to go in the right direction.

In addition there have been areas I could see within the LTD which were starting to fall down but I wanted to give stuff the benefit of the doubt before simply removing it all.

I have been making small changes as I go but the changes have not been enough. It's true the changes I have made could stilll be seeen as knee jerk but I tend to view it a little differently to that.

For example, the more and more I look at LTD the more it seems you need games with less obvious equals and lower odds on one side or the other. Certain leagues seem to cause problems more than others but you can't obliterate them all and when I've done that on other ideas I had in the past all that happened was I got rid of around 50% selections and then the leagues that had been performing started to lose and I was left with a failing system.

It's not always going to work but I've seen in the past many times, these games where nobody seems to be doing anything, no shots, no attacking or even worse, a barage of shots inside the area and 3 or 4 big chances missed. You look at the odds and surprise , there eithwr is no favourite, the home favourite is favourite by only a small margin or the away favourite is favourite but not odds on.

Recent examples are Union Calera, Trabzonspor, Walsall.

From here on home favourites need to have an average under 2.30 (2.29 or less) as seen on oddsportal and away favourites need to under 2.00 (1.99 or less). I'm hoping this should bring more stable results.

Lays are still going very well. I just need to stop missing them when they qualify to maximise these.

Backs, I've got rid of away teams. Yes data was small but I don't just count the data I have here so much as all the other times I've tried to include away teams in ideas of backing and seen they just don't ever seem to do that well long term.

The very obvious red on only a few selections here was enough to decide on just bcking the home teams. Don't get that many but better when they do qualify that I have a higher chance of winning the trade.

So here's todays:

[Richard Latimer]

Almost nothing going on to make that loss back today/tomorrow.

Expect FHG in Gharaffa (Qatar), potential LTD in Finalnd with TPV vs Musa.

[Richard Latimer]

I'm on LTFHT (lay the first half draw) in Potosi game. Still 0-0 after 20 odd minutes. Layed at 2.30.

[Richard Latimer]

Good day. Could have been improved but I forgot to lay Reading when they went ahead, taking my small profit on LTD and mistakenly thinking that was it for the day.

In any case, we end up with the following:

LTD on Sadd, Sandefjord & West Brom - 100%
LTFHD on Viborg, Duhail - A 50/50 split and slight loss
Duhail comeback with a late late goal and secured almost full profit before they scored a late winner

[Richard Latimer]

Here's todays:

Added a FH LTD (or LTFHD) inspired by what @Ryan-Carruthers is currently doing. From a quick look last night I can see that not all will have the greatest liquidity in this market so may not do all or even many fof them depending on this. Need to be able to get out after a goal is scored.

Not really got a set of rules yet for these but I think I'll be aiming to get in around the 10 minute mark. Aim will be to look at how much price drops from kick off in this time frame so I can start to leave unmmatched bets at say 25-30% reduction of the original odds on offer. A work in progress for sure and based on my previous history I can't promise it will go anywhere haha!

Rules for the rest on my sheet as per normal:

[Richard Latimer]

Just these for tomorrow.

Rules on sheet.

[Richard Latimer]

@richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

Going to start posting in here again as well as football forum. Need to keep myself accountable.

Rules on sheet although they are evolving all the time as I collect data.

Ok so only one qualified today and I almost cocked it right up!! A recent issue I need to get on top of quickly is my propensity to lay the home team rather than the draw by mistake. It happened in Stockport game at the weekend and it happened again tonight. Luckily Bodo/Glimt came back unlike Eastleigh.

I know why it happens. I make all my trades on my phone and when I use betondroid the first selection that comes up on opening the market is ladder for home team. You have to actually manually select the draw.

It's still ridiculous though. I wonder if anyone else has made similar mistakes and managed to find a way to avoid in the future??

In any case, the trade worked if you played it how I was supposed to so I'll leave the selection in.

[Richard Latimer]

Going to start posting in here again as well as football forum. Need to keep myself accountable.

Rules on sheet although they are evolving all the time as I collect data.

[Richard Latimer]

Friday selections all up in the football thread.

[Richard Latimer]

If either of the above are 0-0 or 1-1 @ HT I will LTD with a view to getting out either with 2 goal cushion or no later than 75 mins if only 1 goal. If no goal comes I'll stick it out until a goal does come.

If score is 0-1 I'll lay half available odds of U1.5 with a view to this matching 62nd-63rd minute.

For the Bolivian game I may do that regardless as it will be late and allows me to retire to bed haha!!