Food/Diet and training hobbies

John Folan

@ryan-carruthers said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

Yep BMI I hate my mate is classed as overweight and he's in movie star shape lol

Crazy isn’t it. But then it’s designed for people (like me ) who are overweight. Probably to scare you into doing something. Becomes less relevant once you are active and fit

Ryan

Yep BMI I hate my mate is classed as overweight and he's in movie star shape lol

John Folan

BMI can be misleading unless you know you are a lazy fat git lol. If you are working out and it’s muscle not fat you are good to go. Women love doing that though don’t they?

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@john-folan I think it’s because the muscle that a female can gain isn’t a huge amount so it kind of becomes one in the same thing but a guy can have quite a lot so the body composition is a bigger factor. My missus did my BMI the other day whilst doing hers and proceeded to joyfully tell me I was classed as overweight I’m 13.5st at 5’10 but definitely not overweight!

Ryan

Ahahaha yes!! There's some serious pricing on those weights at present - not going to end yet either is it lol

Ryan

@john-folan Congrats on the weight loss buddy cracking program that too!

John Folan

@matt-wood said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

@lee-woodman Nothing wrong with standing in front of a mirror 'mirin yourself

Yea when the gyms are open I do 4 days a week, mon/tue/thu/fri

Chest Back Arms (Chest and Bicep focus)
Legs Shoulders (Deadlifts, Lateral and rear delt focus)
Off
Chest Back Arms (Back and tricep focus)
Legs Shoulders (Leg Press [cant squat due to injury] and dumbell military focus)
Off
Off

Walk 12k steps everyday with that.

@John-Folan Ive never used one of those Bowflex things, loads of different types out now but pricey as F!

Nice splits that. Similar to what I did in my younger days.

You can get a lot cheaper but even they are stupid prices now. Just looking for plates at the moment as that seems to be the cheapest way to buy.

It’s worse than trying to get hold of a ps5!!

John Folan

@lee-woodman said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

@john-folan Well done on the weight loss! Weight training is really good for it. Plus as you gain a bit of muscle then your base level of calories will increase so it’s easier to keep it off. A word of caution though, using simply weight as a measure of progress becomes deceptive as you’ll inevitably build a bit of muscle. You’d be better using the mirror as a guide as really most want to lose fat and not weight per se (I don’t mean stand flexing and admiring yourself all day!)

Like Matt said it makes sense to switch it up or you’ll feel the effects. An upper/lower split works well and it doesn’t matter if you end up doing 2/3/4 days as it’s rolling upper/lower/upper etc so it gives you enough time to recover and is really flexible

Funny was talking to my daughter about the weight thing. She’s a bit obsessed but she’s done her research now and told me the same thing. (Even though I had told her that previously, but women hey?). My problem when I was younger was putting it on. Agree totally on the muscle mass. To be honest I just like the working out and feel much better for it. The acid reflex is disappearing as well which is a nice benefit.

Switching it up is always a bit fun. Throw in a few Joe Wicks workouts as well. Those hurt lol. I was just doing those as a get started. Was being a bit careful of the back. Which remarkably has improved no end from doing this. It’s really funny as I used to get lower back pain going from a laying to a seated position a fair bit. I don’t even get a twinge now but I keep expecting it to hurt. Strange sensation.

Got a cross trainer and will get a spin bike for a bit of cardio. So all good really.

Matt Wood

@lee-woodman Nothing wrong with standing in front of a mirror 'mirin yourself

Yea when the gyms are open I do 4 days a week, mon/tue/thu/fri

Chest Back Arms (Chest and Bicep focus)
Legs Shoulders (Deadlifts, Lateral and rear delt focus)
Off
Chest Back Arms (Back and tricep focus)
Legs Shoulders (Leg Press [cant squat due to injury] and dumbell military focus)
Off
Off

Walk 12k steps everyday with that.

@John-Folan Ive never used one of those Bowflex things, loads of different types out now but pricey as F!

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@john-folan Well done on the weight loss! Weight training is really good for it. Plus as you gain a bit of muscle then your base level of calories will increase so it’s easier to keep it off. A word of caution though, using simply weight as a measure of progress becomes deceptive as you’ll inevitably build a bit of muscle. You’d be better using the mirror as a guide as really most want to lose fat and not weight per se (I don’t mean stand flexing and admiring yourself all day!)

Like Matt said it makes sense to switch it up or you’ll feel the effects. An upper/lower split works well and it doesn’t matter if you end up doing 2/3/4 days as it’s rolling upper/lower/upper etc so it gives you enough time to recover and is really flexible

John Folan

@matt-wood said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

@john-folan said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

@matt-wood said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

@john-folan Congrats on the weight loss, but more importantly congrats on getting back into a routine, this is the hardest part.

Looks like a decent programme for what you are after, a lot of volume for one session though especially if you are going to do 4 of those a week.
Personally for me a couple of exercises I didnt coach but if it works for you go for it Infinitely better than doing nothing.

Cutting out the booze during the week along with sweets and chocs will make a huge difference.

Agree that the weights issue is tough right now, I was looking for a couple of pairs of dumbells and IF you can get them anywhere they are stupid prices, not paying that!

Keep up the good work an you will hit that target weight in no time.

I’ll split them out a bit once we go four times. Legs Shoulders Bicep on day one. Chest Back and Tricep day two. Then repeat. Working in different stuff already. Just feel better.

Prices are just mental. Facebook Marketplace has been ok for cheaper stuff but mad everywhere else.

Yea I had been watching a pair of 40k dumbells on ebay and the guy pmd me saying he would end the auction if I paid £300!!

It’s mad. I wanted a pair of those Bowflez dumbbells. £450 on eBay!

Matt Wood

@john-folan said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

@matt-wood said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

@john-folan Congrats on the weight loss, but more importantly congrats on getting back into a routine, this is the hardest part.

Looks like a decent programme for what you are after, a lot of volume for one session though especially if you are going to do 4 of those a week.
Personally for me a couple of exercises I didnt coach but if it works for you go for it Infinitely better than doing nothing.

Cutting out the booze during the week along with sweets and chocs will make a huge difference.

Agree that the weights issue is tough right now, I was looking for a couple of pairs of dumbells and IF you can get them anywhere they are stupid prices, not paying that!

Keep up the good work an you will hit that target weight in no time.

I’ll split them out a bit once we go four times. Legs Shoulders Bicep on day one. Chest Back and Tricep day two. Then repeat. Working in different stuff already. Just feel better.

Prices are just mental. Facebook Marketplace has been ok for cheaper stuff but mad everywhere else.

Yea I had been watching a pair of 40k dumbells on ebay and the guy pmd me saying he would end the auction if I paid £300!!

John Folan

@matt-wood said in Food/Diet and training hobbies:

@john-folan Congrats on the weight loss, but more importantly congrats on getting back into a routine, this is the hardest part.

Looks like a decent programme for what you are after, a lot of volume for one session though especially if you are going to do 4 of those a week.
Personally for me a couple of exercises I didnt coach but if it works for you go for it Infinitely better than doing nothing.

Cutting out the booze during the week along with sweets and chocs will make a huge difference.

Agree that the weights issue is tough right now, I was looking for a couple of pairs of dumbells and IF you can get them anywhere they are stupid prices, not paying that!

Keep up the good work an you will hit that target weight in no time.

I’ll split them out a bit once we go four times. Legs Shoulders Bicep on day one. Chest Back and Tricep day two. Then repeat. Working in different stuff already. Just feel better.

Prices are just mental. Facebook Marketplace has been ok for cheaper stuff but mad everywhere else.

Matt Wood

@john-folan Congrats on the weight loss, but more importantly congrats on getting back into a routine, this is the hardest part.

Looks like a decent programme for what you are after, a lot of volume for one session though especially if you are going to do 4 of those a week.
Personally for me a couple of exercises I didnt coach but if it works for you go for it Infinitely better than doing nothing.

Cutting out the booze during the week along with sweets and chocs will make a huge difference.

Agree that the weights issue is tough right now, I was looking for a couple of pairs of dumbells and IF you can get them anywhere they are stupid prices, not paying that!

Keep up the good work an you will hit that target weight in no time.

John Folan

About four weeks before Christmas I was coming in at 16 stone. I’d gotten lazy and was putting away too much food and drink.

I had a chat with my daughter who is a fitness freak despite her foot problems and decided to go back to basics and start weight training at home. Copied the programme I started at when I trained at Len Sell’s gym in Walthamstow when I was younger. Changed my eating habits by literally not drinking during the week and cutting out all the sweets and chocolates I’d gone back to munching.

Now hitting the scales at 14stone 8(I’m six foot one) and feeling miles better. Target weight is around 13 stone 7. Funny when I was younger I could never get above 12 stone.

The only problem we have is getting more weights. They are like gold dust. Got a new bench though so will move up a level. We train three times a week and will take it to four shortly.

If you are looking to shift the weight then strength training is the way to go. Google will confirm. Has a lot of benefits as you get older as well. Bone mass/anti ageing effects etc.

Our basic workout(excluding abs) is this. Not a bad place to start.

3 x 15 squats with or without weights
3 x 10 step ups on each leg(60 total)
3 x 20 calf raises
3 x 10 shoulder press
3 x 10 shrugs forwards 3 x 10 shrugs backwards
3 x 10 lateral raises.
3 x 10 press-ups
3 x 10 fly’s(can do on the floor better on a bench)
3 x 10 bent over row
3 x 10(each arm) kneeling row
3 x 10 curls
3 x 10 tricep kickbacks (or dips if you have somewhere you can do them.

Do that for a few weeks then start messing with it.

Ryan

@matthew-biggins Yesss

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If all else fails, I've always got this.......

Ryan

@matt-wood wow!!! That is stunning does wonders for the mind walking around places like this, Im about an hour away from the peaks and use them a fair bit.

Ryan

100% it's tea!!! glad we agree on this!

Greek Yoghurt was always my go to as well, crackingly good one in Aldi too macros on it are decent - although I'm dairy free these days!

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@matt-wood Yeah I think with the discount it's probably worth going for the most expensive one.

I'm not too bad with water tbf plus my stomach has been treated like a rubbish skip in the past so I'm sure it should be used to me by now