The BTC Football Trading Thread
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@liam-willis pretty much every league is streamed between betfair and bet 365, i then just use the zoom in tool on the browser to make the image fullscreen. If your games not on tv or via those sites then you can always try something like vipbox or cricfree but i think those are behind the live game by like 2-3 mins not ideal if your trader tbh. But betfair and bet 365 cover most of the main leagues most traders use anyway so cant go wrong with them.
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@darri said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@martin-walker i think it depends on your strategy and your own style. I do not use inplay stats but i watch the games and have started trialling out the inplay scanner to ping when there is said amount of inplay stats. Its just a buffer to make my decision. Take th wolves vs sevilla game i did a post about, i watched that game and saw how sevilla were playing i came to the conclusion to enter, had a quick glimpse at stats as a backup of my thought and then entered. I think watching the game provides the best edge. Iv watched a tonne of matches were shots have been way outside the box and they add up to looking like a lively game. Attacking pressure and momentum are the two things i harp on about but i would say its totally up to the trader. Which is a combo of shots, attacking momentum ie visually dangerous attacks and how many within the last 5-10 mins. Once you have a strong base which it sounds like you do these things iron themselves out. Certain strategies are complimented with inplay tho as we have sen so many times on here. people posting a trade there being zero action then that trade loses its definitely still something id consider but watching is the best option in my opinion to make your own judgement.
hello mate what do you use to watch the games sky bt ect or free streaming. i need to watch more games, id like to think my match reading skills are good as i was a manager for years lol. im looking to set myself up before the major leagues come back into play.
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@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 yep agree on that, but if you read my original reply you will see i watch the game, if i see there is a strong chance of goal via attacking momentum then i glimpse at inplay stats to buffer that opinion, but if inplay stats arent as big id still trust my eye then enter a trade. I think thats a nice smooth way to feel comfortable in a trade for most beginners to watching a game and keeping a cool head. Its all about the mental side of the trade keeping your emotions out of it. Also 12-15% seems rather low?
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@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@darri said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 are you agreeing or disagreeing here i have no idea? pretty sure i said DA matter and is my key indicator, so im not sure what you were meaning
watching is good but depends on your matchreading skills .... have people watch and do first paper trades and see the results.... but overall everybody need todo what the best is...for him to make that green every month /year ....... good traders make 12%-15% roi a year
also heardboom sochi 2-2
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@darri said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 are you agreeing or disagreeing here i have no idea? pretty sure i said DA matter and is my key indicator, so im not sure what you were meaning
watching is good but depends on your matchreading skills .... have people watch and do first paper trades and see the results.... but overall everybody need todo what the best is...for him to make that green every month /year ....... good traders make 12%-15% roi a year
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@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 are you agreeing or disagreeing here i have no idea? pretty sure i said Dangerous Attacks matter and is my key indicator, so im not sure what you were meaning
also i do this full time mate, pretty sure i know how things go or at least im entitled to voice how i do it 
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IN FINLAND go to lay under 1.5 @1.5 for 0.2 points and later on again @ 1.25
and then u 0.5 @ 1.5 for 0.4 points when i see action before i enter
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@darri said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@martin-walker i think it depends on your strategy and your own style. I do not use inplay stats but i watch the games and have started trialling out the inplay scanner to ping when there is said amount of inplay stats. Its just a buffer to make my decision. I think watching the game provides the best edge. Iv watched a tonne of matches were shots have been way outside the box and they add up to looking like a lively game. Attacking pressure and momentum are the two things i harp on about but i would say its totally up to the trader. Which is a combo of shots, attacking momentum ie visually dangerous attacks and how many within the last 5-10 mins. Once you have a strong base which it sounds like you do these things iron themselves out. Certain strategies are complimented with inplay tho as we have sen so many times on here. people posting a trade there being zero action then that trade loses its definitely still something id consider but watching is the best option in my opinion to make your own judgement.
it is simple to make goals y need DA or possesion .......corners freekick to the box /SOT
it is really not comimg from me but from proffesional traders who trading with good money like 1 point is 1000 pounds/EUR........... -
@martin-walker i think it depends on your strategy and your own style. I do not use inplay stats but i watch the games and have started trialling out the inplay scanner to ping when there is said amount of inplay stats. Its just a buffer to make my decision. Take th wolves vs sevilla game i did a post about, i watched that game and saw how sevilla were playing i came to the conclusion to enter, had a quick glimpse at stats as a backup of my thought and then entered. I think watching the game provides the best edge. Iv watched a tonne of matches were shots have been way outside the box and they add up to looking like a lively game. Attacking pressure and momentum are the two things i harp on about but i would say its totally up to the trader. Which is a combo of shots, attacking momentum ie visually dangerous attacks and how many within the last 5-10 mins. Once you have a strong base which it sounds like you do these things iron themselves out. Certain strategies are complimented with inplay tho as we have sen so many times on here. people posting a trade there being zero action then that trade loses its definitely still something id consider but watching is the best option in my opinion to make your own judgement.
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@chris-osborne said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@john-hurst said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
anyone else think leipzig look value tonight? i know they are missing their top striker now but they managed to beat atletico in last round. 4.5 to back.
Could be an exceptional game tonight.
Leipzig are a good team even without Werner,. There midfield of Sabitzer, Nkunku and Laimier are a match for anyone
I definitely expect an attacking-minded match with a good potential of a lot of goals, however cup games are unpredictable, so who knows. Will be watching it for sure though.
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@john-hurst said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
anyone else think leipzig look value tonight? i know they are missing their top striker now but they managed to beat atletico in last round. 4.5 to back.
Could be an exceptional game tonight.
Leipzig are a good team even without Werner,. There midfield of Sabitzer, Nkunku and Laimier are a match for anyone
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@john-hurst said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
anyone else think leipzig look value tonight? i know they are missing their top striker now but they managed to beat atletico in last round. 4.5 to back.
The odds do look a bit high, but I have found that I am really, really bad a betting on match odds, so I will not do that here either. What I will say is that just because Leipzig did well against Atletico Madrid, it's not safe to assume they will do well against PSG also, as PSG and Atletico have two very different playing styles, and perhaps Atletico just couldn't handle Leipzig's gegenpressing. Who knows if PSG has the perfect way of dealing with that.
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@martin-walker said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 i might track the next 50 games on the filter with some sort of inplay score to see if it would of mattered or not
ii gave respons what he told me ...
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I need an easy way to track my thoughts on the inplay stats at point of entry
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@johannes-van-leeuwen-0 i might track the next 50 games on the filter with some sort of inplay score to see if it would of mattered or not
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anyone else think leipzig look value tonight? i know they are missing their top striker now but they managed to beat atletico in last round. 4.5 to back.
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@martin-walker said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer im at the point now where i have enough data to suggest the inplay doesnt matter for me. Its so subjective, i check the inplay just out of curiosity but i decided to not use it at all so i knew how the filters performed without it. Theres games with 30 shots that end 0-0 and games with no shots that all of a sudden go 3-0.
I much prefer tweaking a filter so that its so strong i trust itthe way how y d look to it a lot off proffesional traders look to the in play stats or watch live a and use prematch only for 20-30%.....for late goals i do not use any filter so my in play scanner to see which games are good to go in
most of the time 3-4 sot one goal and/or 1 DA /minbut sometimes it happened no shots no action and goal but most of the time high rate DA and Sot high % chance goal
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u 2.5 excel test BTC
can y put the odds to back the unders 2.5 from every game
because when we take the matches set and forget .odds average 1.70.. 0.08 points a trade
or how y trade the unders there.... thks -
@martin-walker i still rule out anything silly from the pre match research i should add
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@richard-latimer im at the point now where i have enough data to suggest the inplay doesnt matter for me. Its so subjective, i check the inplay just out of curiosity but i decided to not use it at all so i knew how the filters performed without it. Theres games with 30 shots that end 0-0 and games with no shots that all of a sudden go 3-0.
I much prefer tweaking a filter so that its so strong i trust it
