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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #1621

    @robert-cooke said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan what % of the bank would you recommend for the lays stake for the short odd lays . Thanks john

    I do 2%.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @john-folan what % of the bank would you recommend for the lays stake for the short odd lays . Thanks john

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    #1623

    Finished on a win to take the pain out of the day a bit

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    replied to Fraser cord on last edited by
    #1624

    @fraser-cord Yeah I’m the exact same as you Fraser, I went live with John’s Short Odds Lays with real money on December 1st and I’m currently eight points down at present, but as the great man himself has said, have faith that it will come back our way, which is what I’m doing, even though it can be a little challenging some days 😎

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    #1625

    @fraser-cord said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan I was going to ask earlier, from what I can see its not been performing over the past month or so, that correct?

    I know with all trading there will be ups and downs just difficult when you begin on a downturn. Got to stick with i guess.

    Sadly yes. Lost count of the times I dropped a strategy and then it came good after. The base filters on these are well in profit overall so have complete faith it will come back.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    #1626

    @john-folan I was going to ask earlier, from what I can see its not been performing over the past month or so, that correct?

    I know with all trading there will be ups and downs just difficult when you begin on a downturn. Got to stick with i guess.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    #1627

    Short odds lays have been testing lately. Still well within previous swings.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    replied to Nathan Cooke on last edited by Martin
    #1628

    @nathan-cooke https://betfairtradingcommunity.com/en/blog/horse-racing-software-training-how-use-it-make-money

    Basic Horse Racing Training
    Page with videos from this section on https://betfairtradingcommunity.com/en/blog/free-betfair-horse-racing-trading-course-beginners
    Intro to trading horses


    Backing & Laying

    Scalping & Ticks Explained

    Dobbing, Back to Lay & Lay to Back Explained

    Live Trading Example Dobbing (Back to Lay)

    Lay the field explained

    BSP Explained

    Key Metrics to Consider

    Horse Racing Jargon + Most Popular Strategies https://www.buzzsprout.com/1516057/10759795-horse-racing-jargon-most-popular-strategies-explained

    Full Software Training
    Introduction


    The Meets View

    The Races View

    The Runner List

    Quick Filters

    Strategy Builder Overview

    Strategy Bunker

    Rule Builder Overview Part 1

    Rule Builder Overview Part 2 - Simple Rules

    Rule Builder Overview Part 3 - Scope Rules

    Betting Rules

    Strategy Results

    Create A Strategy With Me!

    Prebuilt Profitable Strategies

    Quick Filters Guide

    Strategies
    Pace Backs Strategy


    Short Odds Lays Strategy

    Beaten Favourite Lays

    Back The Favourite

    Back the Course & Distance Winner

    Pace Lays Strategy

    Lay Strategies

    Live Lay To Back

    Live Back To Lay

    Pre Race Trading Part 1

    Pre Race Trading Part 2

    General
    Should I Trade Horse Racing


    Reason You Should Trade Horses https://www.buzzsprout.com/1516057/10254677-the-reason-horse-racing-trading-is-so-popular
    Preparing to trade Horse Racing https://betfairtradingcommunity.com/en/blog/preparing-trade-part-1-horse-racing-john-folan

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
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    Cheers @martin flick them through 🙂

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    Martin btc team
    replied to Nathan Cooke on last edited by
    #1630

    @nathan-cooke @ryan

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    Martin btc team
    replied to Nathan Cooke on last edited by
    #1631

    @nathan-cooke said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin I've been working through the videos on the 'free-betfair-horse-racing-trading-course-beginners' but I'll check out the start guide

    I've got loads of training I could send you but don't want to overwhelm you, let me know when you finish your current training 🙂

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    @martin I've been working through the videos on the 'free-betfair-horse-racing-trading-course-beginners' but I'll check out the start guide

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Nathan Cooke on last edited by
    #1633

    @nathan-cooke have you gone through @ryan's start guides for new members?

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    Nathan Cooke Banned
    wrote on last edited by
    #1634

    Hey team, just joined and looking to get started trading. Feeling a little overwhelmed with where to start. What strategies to be looking at and if I need to sign up for a bot/trading software. Any advice or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #1635

    @panagiotis said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan So, need to test it. Im following the 6 strategies and analyse the results month to month

    good answer from John! here are my two cents

    Q. Should I still test these before putting money on?
    A. Yes, I will always advise forward testing any strategy for 1-3 months at least. This also helps you see the best approach for the strategy, for free!

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    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1636

    @john-folan So, need to test it. Im following the 6 strategies and analyse the results month to month

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #1637

    @panagiotis said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan I agree but when some strategies are back and forward testing for 2 years, what research do i need to do?

    Check it's right. Check it can be replicated in real life(some can't). Will you achieve close to the odds offered? If you are botting it, then can your bot match the software(with an understandable margin of error)? etc

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @john-folan I agree but when some strategies are back and forward testing for 2 years, what research do i need to do?

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1639

    I shall be laying the favourites in these races 10 seconds before the start time subject to the following conditions:

    Number of Runners 4-14.
    Odds Between 1.8-2.4.
    DSLR: 3-200.

    Full strategy available here in the pinned post.
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-shared-strategies-megathread-downloads

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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #1640

    @panagiotis said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    If we follow blindly the 6 strategies from the preset section , isn't a way to be in profit in 2023?

    Opinions?

    Never blindly follow anything. Check and double check everything. You need to know why a strategy works and how it works before you put a penny down on it.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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