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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Sean Fitzgerald on last edited by
    #3241

    @sean-fitzgerald what's your general strategy with it? sounds promising!

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    Sean Fitzgerald
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3242

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Inspired by Keith's 3% and impatient for my filter data to collect, I'm going to try my own scalping challenge. I know if I follow the rules I can make it work. It's also a mental challenge for me as scalping was what caused me to do the rage trade and end up with a broken hand!

    My aim is to only use £2 stake on a back first basis (so the most I will risk is £2) and collect 33p each day. After 30 days I should have a whopping £10. It's going to be a challenge to not overtrade, keep focus and not get too emotional, but if I can overcome those I'll feel more confident as a trader.

    I can relate to this so well. I do so well with Horse scalping and then blow it all be being ill disciplined. I’ve re-commenced at start of Jan and am determined to prove I can do it for 3 months without breaking my rules. I don’t have an issue with discipline on other sports it’s just horse scalping. This is my last chance to make it work

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3243

    @john-folan well done mate!

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Todays. 3.5-9 as usual
    0_1641628649082_Trobs.JPG

    Dob + 1
    Trob + 2
    Win - 1

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3245

    Todays. 3.5-9 as usual
    0_1641628649082_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3246

    @dan-mackinnon nice one keep us updated

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    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3247

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    From my experience of pre-race scalping (and I'm happy to be corrected) you can use Ryan's 1 tick recycle on the horses.

    Same method as the football. Look for a horse that has had steady odds for a while and similar money either side. Back and lay either side, wait for them both to get matched and take the 1 tick. As with any scalping on any sport I would recommend software to get a better picture of what's going on. I would also suggest looking around 20-25 minutes from the race starting and getting out around 15 minutes before. After that you start getting more traders and the prices can move more than you want.

    Final pointers

    • Don't be greedy / Don't overtrade (my downfall)
    • If it moves against you get out for a scratch or 1 tick loss. There will be plenty of opportunities. Don't sit there waiting for it to recover (another of my failings!)
    • @John-Folan has given me lots of valuable advice, one of which is "start with minimum stakes because you'll only risking a few pennies"

    Thought I'd share this for anyone that had considered scalping horse racing but not sure where to start.

    great idea this! keep us updated with how it goes

    Inspired by Keith's 3% and impatient for my filter data to collect, I'm going to try my own scalping challenge. I know if I follow the rules I can make it work. It's also a mental challenge for me as scalping was what caused me to do the rage trade and end up with a broken hand!

    My aim is to only use £2 stake on a back first basis (so the most I will risk is £2) and collect 33p each day. After 30 days I should have a whopping £10. It's going to be a challenge to not overtrade, keep focus and not get too emotional, but if I can overcome those I'll feel more confident as a trader.

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    #3248

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    One potential today. 3.5-9 as per usual.
    0_1641549987153_Trobs.JPG

    Pulled up. Annoying

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    @Martin Here you go mate.

    so 70% trob rate.
    minimum 5 runs
    the pace value actually works better if you use it for this race alone and ignore the last three runs part.(So pace score for this particular race.
    Works on all surfaces and disciplines. Just need Adam to update the software so I can test it properly. Dobs, Trobs and Wins are ALL profitable though.
    0_1641568986127_Capture.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    replied to Martin on last edited by
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    @martin 70% Trob rate. Let me screenshot you the stuff I fed into the strategy builder

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
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    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Pace testing today:

    6th January

    Spartan Fighter Newcastle AW 7f 2.35PM
    Healing Power Chelmsford City AW 1m 4:00 PM
    Kraka Chelmsford City AW 7f 6:00 PM

    All three finished last

    @John-Folan potential trend I'm noticing is that course and distance wins matter

    Also look at Dob/Trob rate. 😉. Combined with pace it looks mental.

    what percentages are you looking at on those only just seen them on the cards 😄

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3252

    One potential today. 3.5-9 as per usual.
    0_1641549987153_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3253

    @john-folan it's a real man who can cry. I'd be the same haha!

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #3254

    @richard-latimer Thanks mate. I still can’t quite believe it. I was blubbing like a baby when he told me 🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3255

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @nick-terracciano happily no cancer. Thanks for the kind thoughts. I honestly thought he was done as the vet was convinced that’s what it was. They still have no idea what caused it and I’m not poking the bear anymore until I have to. He’s back to himself which I really wasn’t expecting. Happy New Year mate.

    Always late with the updates but well chuffed for you and the dog John!

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3256

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Pace testing today:

    6th January

    Spartan Fighter Newcastle AW 7f 2.35PM
    Healing Power Chelmsford City AW 1m 4:00 PM
    Kraka Chelmsford City AW 7f 6:00 PM

    All three finished last

    @John-Folan potential trend I'm noticing is that course and distance wins matter

    Also look at Dob/Trob rate. 😉. Combined with pace it looks mental.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3257

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Pace testing today:

    6th January

    Spartan Fighter Newcastle AW 7f 2.35PM
    Healing Power Chelmsford City AW 1m 4:00 PM
    Kraka Chelmsford City AW 7f 6:00 PM

    All three finished last

    @John-Folan potential trend I'm noticing is that course and distance wins matter

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  • MartinM Offline
    MartinM Offline
    Martin btc team
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3258

    @dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    From my experience of pre-race scalping (and I'm happy to be corrected) you can use Ryan's 1 tick recycle on the horses.

    Same method as the football. Look for a horse that has had steady odds for a while and similar money either side. Back and lay either side, wait for them both to get matched and take the 1 tick. As with any scalping on any sport I would recommend software to get a better picture of what's going on. I would also suggest looking around 20-25 minutes from the race starting and getting out around 15 minutes before. After that you start getting more traders and the prices can move more than you want.

    Final pointers

    • Don't be greedy / Don't overtrade (my downfall)
    • If it moves against you get out for a scratch or 1 tick loss. There will be plenty of opportunities. Don't sit there waiting for it to recover (another of my failings!)
    • @John-Folan has given me lots of valuable advice, one of which is "start with minimum stakes because you'll only risking a few pennies"

    Thought I'd share this for anyone that had considered scalping horse racing but not sure where to start.

    great idea this! keep us updated with how it goes

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Dan MacKinnon on last edited by
    #3259

    @dan-mackinnon Belter of a strategy this. Nice write up 😀.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • D Offline
    D Offline
    Dan MacKinnon
    wrote on last edited by
    #3260

    From my experience of pre-race scalping (and I'm happy to be corrected) you can use Ryan's 1 tick recycle on the horses.

    Same method as the football. Look for a horse that has had steady odds for a while and similar money either side. Back and lay either side, wait for them both to get matched and take the 1 tick. As with any scalping on any sport I would recommend software to get a better picture of what's going on. I would also suggest looking around 20-25 minutes from the race starting and getting out around 15 minutes before. After that you start getting more traders and the prices can move more than you want.

    Final pointers

    • Don't be greedy / Don't overtrade (my downfall)
    • If it moves against you get out for a scratch or 1 tick loss. There will be plenty of opportunities. Don't sit there waiting for it to recover (another of my failings!)
    • @John-Folan has given me lots of valuable advice, one of which is "start with minimum stakes because you'll only risking a few pennies"

    Thought I'd share this for anyone that had considered scalping horse racing but not sure where to start.

    “Greed moves the goalposts” - Ryan Holiday

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