@dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Today's C&D winners

Rules: Back between 2-7 as close to official start as you can

02/12/2022 12:40 Sandown Step Back -1
02/12/2022 14:45 Sedgefield Road Warrior
02/12/2022 18:00 Dundalk Pierre Lapin
02/12/2022 18:30 Dundalk Zonik
02/12/2022 18:45 Newcastle After John +3.43
02/12/2022 19:15 Newcastle Huraiz

Running total -3
Software -4

Finally got a winner!

Bit annoying that the software picked up another 2 winners that didn't make the initial selection, but that's another example of why horse racing is difficult as a set and forget strategy.

Running total: -.57
Software: +3.06

Today's qualifiers
2022-12-03 14:12 Chepstow Bells Of Peterboro

There’s probably a way to get Bfbot as close as you like. If you have a one qualifier rule you can load them all on and then have a condition to only back if number of selections =1.

Just run your system without the 1 qualifier rule. (Set it up as a separate version as I mentioned yesterday). Will get you a lot closer.

Then the bot can do the work.

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@dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

Today's C&D winners

Rules: Back between 2-7 as close to official start as you can

02/12/2022 12:40 Sandown Step Back -1
02/12/2022 14:45 Sedgefield Road Warrior
02/12/2022 18:00 Dundalk Pierre Lapin
02/12/2022 18:30 Dundalk Zonik
02/12/2022 18:45 Newcastle After John +3.43
02/12/2022 19:15 Newcastle Huraiz

Running total -3
Software -4

Finally got a winner!

Bit annoying that the software picked up another 2 winners that didn't make the initial selection, but that's another example of why horse racing is difficult as a set and forget strategy.

Running total: -.57
Software: +3.06

Today's qualifiers
2022-12-03 14:12 Chepstow Bells Of Peterboro

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I have been trading a version of Martins lay the Beaten Fav, which has excluded A/W

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After a promising start, it has since been spluttering along. I didn't included course filters, hoping it would still be quite robust, but after seeing Dan's version, those numbers are too good to ignore. I 'll keep following this, but I'm going to the dark side and using Dan's course filters 😁

My laying Held Up Horses took a bit of a hit this month...Still in the green though...

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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

I shall be laying the favourites in these races 10 seconds before the start time subject to the following conditions:

Number of Runners 4-14.
Odds Between 1.8-2.4.
DSLR: 3-200.

Full strategy available here in the pinned post.
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-shared-strategies-megathread-downloads

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I actually had four selections hit yesterday. The ones extra were borderline on the odds. Anyway, another 0.4 points loss sadly.

3/4 today πŸ˜ƒ

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@dan-mackinnon said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

It’s been amateur hour today!

I put a selection on which wasn’t on my filter and lost. Then I just realised I messed about with one of my bots yesterday and had it set to back instead of lay so cost myself there too!

Overall -12pts for being stupid. I’ll put that down as an idiot tax.

The silver lining is that the lay bot worked perfectly (just shame it backed the selection instead)

Good news is it probably won't happen again, as it's in your head now!

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@robert-cooke said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@john-folan thanks John . I'm not using bots at the moment, but I'll remember this for when i do. How do I check if the horses DSLR qualifies.

Quickest way is to look on the racecards on the btc software. πŸ˜ƒ

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@robert-cooke All I do mate is just open up the runner list for the race itself and then you can see the number in the DSLR column. If its between 3-200 its all good πŸ‘

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@john-folan thanks John . I'm not using bots at the moment, but I'll remember this for when i do. How do I check if the horses DSLR qualifies.

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It’s been amateur hour today!

I put a selection on which wasn’t on my filter and lost. Then I just realised I messed about with one of my bots yesterday and had it set to back instead of lay so cost myself there too!

Overall -12pts for being stupid. I’ll put that down as an idiot tax.

The silver lining is that the lay bot worked perfectly (just shame it backed the selection instead)

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@john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@Lee-Colvin @Martin @Angus-Macleod @Robert-Cooke
Just checked my bots. The one on the Mega thread against the one I'm using. They are the same, bar the fact I am not trading on Saturdays as just not worth it.

I 'don't however take the qualifiers off there. I run a separate version (I've called qualifiers) with runner numbers and DSLR removed. These are then filtered in my bot as

  1. Won't know the runner numbers until the race.
  2. Won't know the DSLR of the favourite (because that might change) until the race.

That's why I am getting races as qualifiers on certain races, and you aren't. I'm ignoring those filters and letting the bot sort it out as they are unknown variables in the morning.

I thought I was losing the plot last night lol.

I actually meant to mention this to people before. Every strategy I have has two versions.

Qualifiers

Results.

Qualifiers is exactly the same as Results but with variables that can change on the day removed. (Runner Numbers, DSLR if I am laying a favourite and not a specific horse. Number of Qualifiers, etc). I then rely on my bot to filter these out.

Probably a practice everyone should follow as it stops Adam's favourite query πŸ˜‰

Cheers for the explanation mate πŸ‘ I was properly confused about how I was "missing" certain selections but it makes sense nowπŸ˜„ . Appreciate the daily posts of your selections too for added simplicity πŸ‘Œ fantastic effort as usualπŸ‘

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@john-folan oh yeah. The good thing about the software is you can get an idea of winning/ losing streaks.

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@dan-mackinnon the thing with short odds is losing trades seem to come in clusters. Happily so do wins lol

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@john-folan short odds cost me yesterday. I was having a good day and then handed it all back and then some. Oh well, big day today

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I shall be laying the favourites in these races 10 seconds before the start time subject to the following conditions:

Number of Runners 4-14.
Odds Between 1.8-2.4.
DSLR: 3-200.

Full strategy available here in the pinned post.
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-shared-strategies-megathread-downloads

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I actually had four selections hit yesterday. The ones extra were borderline on the odds. Anyway, another 0.4 points loss sadly.

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@greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

@dan-mackinnon There definitely is a 13:00 at Sedgefield πŸ˜‚

I guess my question is, if there is more than one horse in a race that has won at C & D, but only one that fits the odds criteria (2 to 7), do you still do that one or ignore the race?

Haha! Sorry I was looking at Sandown. There shouldn't be 2 that both hit because I've changed the filter to 1 qualifier only. If they do then probably just leave them.

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@Lee-Colvin @Martin @Angus-Macleod @Robert-Cooke
Just checked my bots. The one on the Mega thread against the one I'm using. They are the same, bar the fact I am not trading on Saturdays as just not worth it.

I 'don't however take the qualifiers off there. I run a separate version (I've called qualifiers) with runner numbers and DSLR removed. These are then filtered in my bot as

  1. Won't know the runner numbers until the race.
  2. Won't know the DSLR of the favourite (because that might change) until the race.

That's why I am getting races as qualifiers on certain races, and you aren't. I'm ignoring those filters and letting the bot sort it out as they are unknown variables in the morning.

I thought I was losing the plot last night lol.

I actually meant to mention this to people before. Every strategy I have has two versions.

Qualifiers

Results.

Qualifiers is exactly the same as Results but with variables that can change on the day removed. (Runner Numbers, DSLR if I am laying a favourite and not a specific horse. Number of Qualifiers, etc). I then rely on my bot to filter these out.

Probably a practice everyone should follow as it stops Adam's favourite query πŸ˜‰

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Not the worst start to my Flat Pace Back Fitting experiment lol
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@dan-mackinnon There definitely is a 13:00 at Sedgefield πŸ˜‚

I guess my question is, if there is more than one horse in a race that has won at C & D, but only one that fits the odds criteria (2 to 7), do you still do that one or ignore the race?

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