The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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@john-folan "original HRT"?
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@alan-steward said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Are there any posts set up on how to "Lay The Field" (sounds bit of a Debbie Does Dallas sequel lol)
i.e. Qualifying races etc. - I get we lay all horses @ 1.8 but is there any pre Lay criteria which needs to be met... Cheers
I think handicaps and 6 plus horses. Looks like there might be a distance filter? With the original HRT going up the spout I’ve lost about a month of the forum.
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
@martin-futter gotcha, theres a few meetings tomorrow morning in Aus from just after 8am... Need to work out how many metres in a furlong lol
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@alan-steward If the winner only gets matched then you lose your liability, 2 matches and it's a small profit. We had one race last night at Will Rogers Downs that hit 4 matches.
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Can see it working... Obviously you'll need to get 2 matched or just 1 will win the race and we lose... Winners always drop below 1.8... Or do you trade out of this strat before the race ends?
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@alan-steward Also, watch the AUS markets as some tracks have a 6% turnover charge so it's extra commission.
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@alan-steward I was using the market to practice scalping and started finding that I was having more joy laying the field (like Debbie!!!). Been trying to drill it down but as I said, finding any historical info or form data has been a nightmare.
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@keith-dow said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@alan-steward ….also what is "Debbie Does Dallas"????
Lol, sorry mate... That's my rugby mentality
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@keith-dow Cheers Keith, Martin put a video in one of his emails today so thought it was bit of a tried & tested strat
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@alan-steward ….also what is "Debbie Does Dallas"????
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@alan-steward I wish I had a comprehensive research and data based answer to this but it's been mostly guess work and a bit a fun from me if I'm honest.I can tell you I have had the best joy in the US market in races no more than a mile long. Some joy in the AUS market when it's a handicap race. I also try to look at the odds being fairly competitive so - no odds on fav that is miles away from the others. I like to see 3 or 4 trading around 3 - 6 and a couple around 8-10 in a field no less than 6. Also, avoid the short sprint races.
It's really hard to get any form stats or horse form on these markets. Keep the staking low as well as the liquidity is not wonderful at some of the AUS races, US has been not too bad though.
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Are there any posts set up on how to "Lay The Field" (sounds bit of a Debbie Does Dallas sequel lol)
i.e. Qualifying races etc. - I get we lay all horses @ 1.8 but is there any pre Lay criteria which needs to be met... Cheers
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@charles-cartwright said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@pete-smith said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Is anyone else thinking of trading the USA racing at Remington Park starting at midnight?
Good luck with that. Those are quarterhorse races run over 1 to 2 furlong distances. If you have never seen one it is worth a watch because it is pretty dramatic.
Not one for any kind of trading strategy though since most races are extremely unpredictable and wide open.
Australian racing is of a much higher standard than the US in general and would certainly provide some angles there to be looked at.
Right now I am pretty much exclusively working on automated strategies for dutching Aussie dogs and horses.
Evening Charles thanks for your valued input . Won't try laying the field in the Usa meet then if the races are over in a flash.
Have you had any success with testing automatically on the greyhounds, as i haven't found a profitable automation set up yet ? -
@charles-cartwright Thanks Charles for the heads up, will stay with the rest of the crowd and trade the Aussie races!
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@pete-smith said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Is anyone else thinking of trading the USA racing at Remington Park starting at midnight?
Good luck with that. Those are quarterhorse races run over 1 to 2 furlong distances. If you have never seen one it is worth a watch because it is pretty dramatic.
Not one for any kind of trading strategy though since most races are extremely unpredictable and wide open.
Australian racing is of a much higher standard than the US in general and would certainly provide some angles there to be looked at.
Right now I am pretty much exclusively working on automated strategies for dutching Aussie dogs and horses.
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@james-everard said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
I remember many years ago when England played Brazil in the world cup in Korea. The match was on at 7am and the pubs were rammed by 6am. Everyone was vomiting in the streets by lunchtime !
That was June 2002. I remember being sleep deprived then too, as the wife had just popped out a sprog!
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@james-everard reckon I'll check liquidity nearer the time, maybe test the laying the field also. If not will see you guys at 6am!
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@pete-smith I saw them advertised but that was against my plan over waking up at 6am to trade then. May automate my trades giving this a trial of laying the field.
