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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #2801

    @keith said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Oh come on. You know it’s true. I know why it happens as well.

    99/100 you put money on after a half decent winning run so you get caught by the reversion to the mean. Same with stake increases. This is why I compound as I go along. Don’t get caught out. The best thing I have ever learnt trading wise.

    I'm laughing because I have seen it so many times but never seen it described so accurately 🤣
    Yes compounding is amazing

    So true though isn’t it 🤣

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2802

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Oh come on. You know it’s true. I know why it happens as well.

    99/100 you put money on after a half decent winning run so you get caught by the reversion to the mean. Same with stake increases. This is why I compound as I go along. Don’t get caught out. The best thing I have ever learnt trading wise.

    I'm laughing because I have seen it so many times but never seen it described so accurately 🤣
    Yes compounding is amazing

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #2803

    @keith said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    “I’ve put money on it so here is the initial losing run to make you s**t your pants and bottle out of it moment”.
    🤣🤣🤣

    Oh come on. You know it’s true. I know why it happens as well.

    99/100 you put money on after a half decent winning run so you get caught by the reversion to the mean. Same with stake increases. This is why I compound as I go along. Don’t get caught out. The best thing I have ever learnt trading wise.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2804

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    “I’ve put money on it so here is the initial losing run to make you s**t your pants and bottle out of it moment”.
    🤣🤣🤣

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2805

    Blimey. Storming day on the short odds lay bot. Made back over half of the “I’ve put money on it so here is the initial losing run to make you s**t your pants and bottle out of it moment”.

    Hopefully will be some dob/trob selections tomorrow for you all. Got a couple now showing around 60 points a year profit as well as Slow Horses and the DR Trobs. Will post them as they qualify.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2806

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    The flat season is upon us :). Today's trobs
    0_1651395081708_Trobs.JPG

    Scratch. Annoying but that’s trading.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    #2807

    Seeing a lot of confusion in various places over the horse racing software. I’ve traded horses for over six years and I’m still learning. This terminology guide isn’t a bad place to start and might give you some ideas for filters etc. The software is a steep learning curve, especially the strategy builder. Also maybe take a look at the race cards, there is some good information on there that might point you in the right direction.

    https://www.greatbritishracing.com/guide-to-racing/jargon-buster/

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2808

    The flat season is upon us :). Today's trobs
    0_1651395081708_Trobs.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2809

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Awful day yesterday, I'm going to go back to paper trading these for a while.

    What I have noticed is that ones who come in closer to the off often win, so I may just remove any that would not qualify when I check in the morning and see if that can help.

    It’s changeover month mate. Bad days happen and can hurt in horse racing. My short odd lay bot is 10 points down in three days. I’m happy with the backtest though and it has seen this before. As long as it’s not out of kilter with previous lows they should be more than fine.

    Not a bad idea to just watch the results for a few weeks and see if it falls within the data set you have.

    Also really good point on steamers. A good sign the market knows.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by
    #2810

    Awful day yesterday, I'm going to go back to paper trading these for a while.

    What I have noticed is that ones who come in closer to the off often win, so I may just remove any that would not qualify when I check in the morning and see if that can help.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
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    #2811

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    These were crap yesterday. So were my botted short odd lays. However looking over previous results on both and April and October are always iffy as the racing switches from jumps to flat and vice versa. Nothing major and nothing to worry about. However that is another benefit of the software 😄.

    Todays trobs. Still no NHF racing.
    0_1651302190442_7CFC06A9-E276-4A9B-A799-DE9F7CA719ED.jpeg

    Made back yesterdays loss in the one trade that hit the odds filter

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Rick WatsonR Offline
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    Rick Watson
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2812

    @john-folan iv had a little flick through excellent content from you john . Have the boys put you on the pay roll yet. As cheif tester . If not think they should. I can see the future prests / profitable members filters all containing johns strategy for ........ pmsl

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  • Rick WatsonR Offline
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    Rick Watson
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2813

    @john-folan thanks mate il have a shifty through.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Rick Watson on last edited by
    #2814

    @rick-watson said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    hi all i invested in the long awaited holy grail last night iv watched so many videos over and over and brain my brain is hurting pmsl. has anyone come up with a basic dob strat yet that could be tinkerd with

    If you scroll back over the last week on this thread and The horse software one I have posted settings for dobbing

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    wrote on last edited by
    #2815

    Not got time to post today but here is my sheet 🙂 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bZltAAa9SvEcnlR_pUbJu-JY_o1DJ3LQ0uvLwSwnwQ4/edit?usp=sharing

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Rick Watson on last edited by
    #2816

    @rick-watson said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    hi all i invested in the long awaited holy grail last night iv watched so many videos over and over and brain my brain is hurting pmsl. has anyone come up with a basic dob strat yet that could be tinkerd with

    @John-Folan has done some dobbing stuff mainly for trobs

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  • Rick WatsonR Offline
    Rick WatsonR Offline
    Rick Watson
    wrote on last edited by
    #2817

    hi all i invested in the long awaited holy grail last night iv watched so many videos over and over and brain my brain is hurting pmsl. has anyone come up with a basic dob strat yet that could be tinkerd with

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #2818

    @martin said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan need to have a good look at the months myself on mine, if only to prepare

    And it’s so easy. You can group by months at the bottom. I always check the different group breakdowns to see if there are good filtering angles. Very clever that.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2819

    @john-folan need to have a good look at the months myself on mine, if only to prepare

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2820

    These were crap yesterday. So were my botted short odd lays. However looking over previous results on both and April and October are always iffy as the racing switches from jumps to flat and vice versa. Nothing major and nothing to worry about. However that is another benefit of the software 😄.

    Todays trobs. Still no NHF racing.
    0_1651302190442_7CFC06A9-E276-4A9B-A799-DE9F7CA719ED.jpeg

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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