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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2201

    Nothing today

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    A Former User
    wrote on last edited by
    #2202

    I am getting the odd horse skipped on a bet in live that on backtest and i think i know why. I am sure someone here will know if my theory is correct.

    I think my automation criteria are not using a similar pattern to the backtest. In my automation i use lay price < value but i have a feeling the backtester uses LTP < value. Would that be correct? I can easily change my automation if thats the case.

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by John Folan
    #2203

    Just posting Classic Trobs here from now on. I think everyone has the software now. Flat Pace is running just under it's lowest strike rate for a month anyway and is probably best left alone (although I am still staking them).

    0_1661069603752_Trob.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2204

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.

    0_1660985917746_Trob.JPG

    Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going. The awful run continues

    0_1660985945577_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
    None Today

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2205

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    NONE TODAY

    Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.0_1660896694187_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
    None Today

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2206

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    NONE TODAY

    Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.
    0_1660733302352_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
    0_1660733324066_Slow Horses.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #2207

    @nick-allan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan how are the dobs doing john? are you finding more success in dob or trobs?

    dont worry about the flat pace it will come back

    Thanks. I know it will. Losing runs play havoc with me though. Always have. Better at ignoring that little voice these days tho 🤣

    I find trobbing better value most of the time. Only slow horses seems to do better dobbing.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Nick Allan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2208

    @john-folan how are the dobs doing john? are you finding more success in dob or trobs?

    dont worry about the flat pace it will come back

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2209

    Flat Pace is getting a right kicking in these strange weather conditions

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    NONE TODAY

    Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.
    0_1660642503563_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses
    NONE TODAY

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to Adam on last edited by
    #2210

    @adam
    The difference in offer @ 4 to take available 1.01 to 4 is over 3000 points which i certainly wasnt expecting though i do understand there is a small technical difference between the methods. If that is correct then i will probably bin that strategy since the backtester reporting a profit using 'Take Available' simply cant be trusted if the strategy involves inplay.

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  • AdamA Offline
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    Adam btc team
    replied to A Former User on last edited by Adam
    #2211

    @jonathan-jones Click the changelog button and see if you can see the latest changes on 13/08/2022 listed:

    0_1660563473660_3b5a788b-d6ba-4e3f-a058-b1b3db66c006-image.png

    I just had a look and re-saved the strategy we were discussing in your config, because although the fix was applied to the software itself, the strategy was still saved from a version where the issue was present.

    Give the page a refresh and have another look now...

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2212

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1660550989264_Trob.JPG

    Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.
    0_1660551005933_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
    None Today

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    wrote on last edited by
    #2213

    Is there a way to check if i am using the latest version ofthe software? A fix was deployed over the weekend but its still looking very broke to me. I have cleared the cache (pretty sure it worked since it asked me to log back into the software and other sites i had open).

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  • Keith DriscollK Offline
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    Keith Driscoll
    replied to Nick Allan on last edited by
    #2214

    @nick-allan BA Has plenty of videos to help. Plus, files to download. The best way is to use the files, and play around with them in 'play' mode. 🙂

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2215

    One flat pace. Usual rules.

    0_1660467374791_Flat Pace.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2216

    Todays
    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1660376409923_Trob.JPG

    Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.
    0_1660376424057_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
    None Today

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • N Offline
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    Nick Allan
    wrote on last edited by
    #2217

    heys guys im dropping BFBM for bet angel and wondered if there is a tread to talk about automation issues on BA guardian like the one that Jon has for BFBM auto?

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #2218

    @john-folan thanks for posting these, however isn’t the flat pace back yesterday’s list?

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by John Folan
    #2219

    Today's. Everything struggling at the moment. Guessing the weather is having an effect

    Classic Trobs: Dob, Trob or Win 3.5-9 odds range. Avoid Heavy Ground.
    0_1660295859578_Trob.JPG

    Flat Pace: Back to Win 2-25 odds range. 4-14 runners only. Avoid Heavy, Firm and Soft going.
    0_1660296189407_Flat Pace.JPG

    Slow Horses: Dob any over 6.0
    0_1660295927099_Slow Horses.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to Adam on last edited by
    #2220

    @adam
    Thanks,
    So it is what i thought it was. Might of found a small bug then. The reason i asked was when i changed from "Take Available" at 4-4 to "Offer" at 4 the profit dropped from plus 1200 to minus 1500. Obviously i couldnt get me head round that since the 2 options should produce similar results in the backtest. This isnt happening today and i am seeing the results i expect but yesterday isnt the first time i have seen that odd behaviour when swapping between "Take Available" and "Offer". I gave up with some experiments in a "Lay the Field" type strategy because of it.

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