BTC Cricket Trading Thread
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From a newbie perspective, watching the traded price charts has been a good indicator. I can see how the over-reaction of the market after a wicket can be profitable. You just have to be on it sharp. Amazing how it shoots out then recovers so quick!
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@jon-m I know Richard looks for low odds to lay, so when a team still has every chance to win but market is already pricing them way out of it
Cricket
Entry:
At start if underdog is big odds and being underrated
If team you want to back has just lost a wicket – often ticks can be gained before the next ball is bowled, or one boundary will shoot price in your favour (this works well with underdog as if two quick wickets you will not get too damaged laying at heavy odds on)
At the start of second innings (ODIs) when market has written off either side completely (works better with evenly matched sides and below 1.1 price)
In a test match when draw is heavy odds on after only one day (check weather but as my old man has always said no-one ever got poor laying the draw in test cricket!)Exit:
When market has gone too far in your favour
I exit quickly a lot of the time as cricket can swing the other way quickly
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@andrew-wooding said in 2020 Cricket Trading Thread - Updated Thread:
@jon-m Martin & Jon. I’d like to jump on this bandwagon and completely back up from my own experience, that T20’s are frightening quite frankly. Yes I can see the brilliant potential if you get it right, but get it wrong and you’ll take a kicking.
I know there are going to be defined pinch points on when to enter and when to exit, but it would be incredibly useful if a tutorial or guide could be put forward, giving specifics on how experienced people do their analysis, and explaining WHY they do what they do, not just how. I for one would be all over that should it be a resource I could go back to time after time. I could also see it being a big draw for new members to BTC.
Just my thoughts of course.Me too! That’s exactly what I need, I’ve been looking for T20’s trading tutorials and struggling to find them. Anything like Andrews suggestion would be extremely useful. BTC is a great site, though for me the content is weighted too heavily towards football, and there’s not enough for cricket traders.
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@jon-m Martin & Jon. I’d like to jump on this bandwagon and completely back up from my own experience, that T20’s are frightening quite frankly. Yes I can see the brilliant potential if you get it right, but get it wrong and you’ll take a kicking.
I know there are going to be defined pinch points on when to enter and when to exit, but it would be incredibly useful if a tutorial or guide could be put forward, giving specifics on how experienced people do their analysis, and explaining WHY they do what they do, not just how. I for one would be all over that should it be a resource I could go back to time after time. I could also see it being a big draw for new members to BTC.
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@martin-futter thanks Martin. I’d say I’ve ‘got the hang’ of Test trading which suits my style, but matches can be few and far between, so to take my trading to the next level, I really need to work on T20’s. My general strategy with Test’s is 1) trading the weather/conditions and 2) identifying moments in the match when wickets are likely to fall. I rarely back a team to score runs, as I lose my nerve and have messed positions up as/when wickets fall.
With T20’s I just can’t get the hang of it. I think it’s probably because I’m in my Test strategy mode, where T20’s is much more about making runs. I really struggle to read the pitch & conditions, identify the opportunities in a match where a team is wrongly priced, how the next period of play is likely to go, and T20’s seem much more of a lottery than the certainly of the longer format. Very frustrating as I’m fairly successful with Tests, and equally unsuccessful with T20’s!
Any help would be very much appreciated!
Jon
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@jon-m I wouldn’t imagine Caan would know much about cricket beyond entry level, he is a horse guy from what I’ve seen, so personally would avoid that one.
Don’t know the other guys so can’t comment.
What is it you want to learn in particular? We could probably save you some money and help
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Can anyone recommend a good cricket trading book to buy? I’ve seen these two:
https://caanberry.com/product/cricket-trading-guide/
https://thesportstrader.com/product/cricket-trading-ebook/
Any thoughts / recommendations? I don’t want a guide to be too basic as I think I’m beyond that level, though I know I need to learn a lot more to develop my cricket trading, especially in the shorter formats.
Thanks,
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@nathan-bennett said in 2020 Cricket Trading Thread - Updated Thread:
Praying for 400 overs 3rd test !!! Anyone have a crack CPL was at work and chimed in for something when tridents 3/20 , classic 1.23 - 2.20 was a good wage ..
Layed both at 1.4 both matched so bit of profit
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Praying for 400 overs 3rd test !!! Anyone have a crack CPL was at work and chimed in for something when tridents 3/20 , classic 1.23 - 2.20 was a good wage ..
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@sajjo-lohar brilliant mate thanks so much.
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Hi Guys , Im sorry in advance for this post which might be kinda long and boring. In terms of strategies, I am completely new to cricket trading so I am learning from your experiences.
But I am quite knowledgeable about the CPL as its our tournament . I have followed our regional cricket for the last 20 years and I know these players well, having played with and against some of them also .
It is known to be the biggest party in sport but unfortunately this year is quite different as all matches are played in Trinidad with no cheering fans. The matches in Tarouba, not far from my village are not generally very high scoring because there is help for bowlers but its also even paced. Matches in Queens Park Oval are higher scoring but that pitch helps spinners more.Trinbago Knightriders will be favourites as they know local conditions better. Also their squad has big names such as Dwayne Bravo, Kieran Pollard, Sunil Narine, Lendl Simmons and a few other decent spinners. They have also won the most times (3) and start off slow but always peak in knockout matches.
Barbados Tridents are the current champions. They also have key players such as spinners Rashid Khan, and a few decent all-rounders. And many flexible players who can chip in when needed, such as Holder, Ashley Nurse, Shai Hope.
Guyana Amazon Warriors have been very consistent over the years they have been runners up 5 times but never won. Last year they won 11 matches unbeaten to the final, but lost in the final . Guyana pitch is the most spin friendly in the world and their batsmen (think of Chanderpaul, Sarwan, Hooper, etc) are also excellent players of spin , but this tactic wont work this year as no matches are in Guyana. Their squad is not that strong but they always punch above their weight a bit like NZ in world cups. Look out for Pooran, Hetmyer, and Imran Tahir.
Jamaica Tallawahs was in some disarray with the recent problems between Chris Gayle and Ramnaresh Sarwan , and they also lost Marlon Samuels. However they have the worlds best T20 player in Andre Russel. The captain Rovman Powell is decent so is Carlos. They also got dangerous spinners in Mujeeb, Permaul and Lamichanne. Very strong bowling squad, but batting a bit weak.
St Kitts Nevis Patriots were supposed to have Gayle but he dropped out so its a big loss, same with Fabian Allen, but they can still surprise. Main players will be Evin Lewis, Chris Lynn especially if they open together, Denesh Ramdin still the best wicket keeper in the region , and Sheldon Cotterall.
St Lucia Zouks are led by Daren Sammy who is very experienced and popular, He manages to get the most out of his players. Overall probably the weakest squad ( and historically have the worst record) but main players will be Chase, Rakeem Cornwall, Andre Fletcher and Mohammad Nabi .
Generally the teams with more quality batsmen (not hitters , because all West Indian players are big hitters) and better spinners go far. Pace bowlers dont do much here. CPL is all about 6s and quality spin . But as said before this year will be unique because of the Covid conditions sp anything can happen really. Sorry again for this very long post but I hope this can probably give some help in case anybody wanted info about players they didnt know too well .
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@nathan-bennett good advice thx mate
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Any thoughts towards the next test with the current draw price? Seems like rain is a possibility, which I assume is already priced in?
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@andrew-wooding not something I've often applied its more of a statistical thing if your happy to let this strat run throughout and entire game and or not watching and just want to gamble .. I like to be aggresive when enter and look to get my red out as fast as possible and assess . often games start with teams $2 a piece there's many different ways to double your money in a game of t20 the times I've done my dough often is when trading from the off so i tend to hold to wait for scenario i like ... you'll learn a lot just from market observation aswell .. im sure others have ways of doing things never a science to it just experience of losing and winning a sussing what works for you
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@nathan-bennett amazing thx Nath. Dies the binary ‘lay both teams at 1.4-1.5’thing actually work consistently? Or as I suspect is it a lot more nuanced than that?
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Couple strats/angles worked well for me at times t20 pending what talent is at the crease and or bowling
First innings after 8-10 overs run rate fair and batting team only 2-3 down and 1.8+ back till end of innings and or 40-50 ticks
Second innings chasing huge scores back batting team look to reduce liability if off to a flyer during powerplay and assess trades
Market odds yes laying low 1.2 even 1.1 can provide dividends late in games doesn't take much to double market odds in this format -
@martin-futter Fantastic, thx Martin
