The BTC Horse Racing Thread
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A combination of pre-race scalping and laying the rubbish napsters sees me over 2 pts up on the ponies today. hurrah!
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Didnt happen. Small loss. Here's todays
Read the first post on both threads.
Horse Trading Resources
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resourcesBfBotmanager
https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion -
Today's. Let's hope for a better day
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@john-folan Thank you. Appreciate it that. I spotted a link to your spreadsheet somewhere and then from there to the in running trading tool. So that gives me answers to a load of stuff!
Might actually just put it to one side for now. I'm new to this and still very much learning. Don't want to overstretch.
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Todays. Yesterday was a bust so 1 point lost. Two potentials today subject to odds filters(One should definitely hit)
Odds filters are 3.5-9. Go as close to the off as you can. My bot is set for 2 seconds out. It was previously at 10 but rare a race goes off early or on time these days. Avoid Heavy ground as this just doesn't work on it. Check the going as close to the off as possible as they have a habit of changing it.
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@gareth-thomas said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Well. I've just learned more about Dobbing and Trobbing. I've imported a rules file to Bet Angel. Got it to work - more or less. And won an imaginary £2 in Practice mode. Gone from zero to ... just above zero in less than an hour.
@John-Folan - are you available for questions about this or is it just something you post? Interested to learn more but recognise you may not be interested in answering!
Yep ask away. Been a bit manic lately so not been around as much as I would like. I'll answer as much as I can.
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Well. I've just learned more about Dobbing and Trobbing. I've imported a rules file to Bet Angel. Got it to work - more or less. And won an imaginary £2 in Practice mode. Gone from zero to ... just above zero in less than an hour.
@John-Folan - are you available for questions about this or is it just something you post? Interested to learn more but recognise you may not be interested in answering!
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@john-folan Thanks John.
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@john-folan excellent my good man... Am still looking for an Arsenal fan to get a big hug OTBC!
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@alan-steward said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@martin-futter I believe @Gareth-Thomas might be referring to the actual process of the trade i.e. back to lay/lay to back etc.
Am intrigued myself
OTBC!Hi fellas. If you look on my resources thread there’s a full explanation of a trob. It is a back to lay hoping for a 67% drop in price.
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@martin-futter I believe @Gareth-Thomas might be referring to the actual process of the trade i.e. back to lay/lay to back etc.
Am intrigued myself
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@gareth-thomas said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
Hi,
I know you say there's no such thing as a daft question .. but possibly here comes one ...I'm still following the 'Rubbish Tipster' advice (seeing how they get on) but I thought - and I am clearly not the first to think this - how about backing the tips of the top napster's. Presumably people have looked at this previously and discounted it?
Since last week (and I'm only paper trading), just picking the top 3 winning naps, backing them to win and place has had a combined 40.9% strike rate and made 12pts (85-15 split for the 'to win').
I'll stick with tracking it but thought I'd ask whether anyone has previously tracked it for a decent period of time and found anything more useful than my pitifully small sample size.
my answer to any inquiry like this is simple, set up a sheet and test it
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@gareth-thomas said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@john-folan Hi John. Is this something you're sharing for other people to use or just to show what you're doing? If it's the former, is there somewhere I can find an explanation about what it all means? Thanks
he trobs them (treble or bust) so basically you back them and trade to make 200% profit on stake (so say £10 stake you would make £20 profit, £30 returned hence the treble)
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@john-folan Hi John. Is this something you're sharing for other people to use or just to show what you're doing? If it's the former, is there somewhere I can find an explanation about what it all means? Thanks
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Todays. 3.5-9 as usual
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Well, first of all, thanks for the positive reply and not making me feel like a dick
I'll keep paper trading and seeing what needs adapting.
found a very useful website - napchecker.com - which has historical data from naps/napsters/tips etc.
Will see how I go.
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@finn-kristensen said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:
@gareth-thomas I tried it a couple of years ago or so - I found that some of the top tipsters were only there due a few high-odds winners, so they didn't deliver on a regular basis. If you can remove them, there may be potential.
Maybe you could record their averages and averages of their winners against those of their losers to get a feel.
I prefer median average as well so you eliminate the outliers.
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@gareth-thomas Also, I know that there is a strategy "out there" based on following the top 3 tipsters. As soon as they have had 3 losers in a row, you start backing them, since generally, they should be good at picking winners, so their losing runs should be pretty short. Haven't tested it myself though.
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@gareth-thomas I tried it a couple of years ago or so - I found that some of the top tipsters were only there due a few high-odds winners, so they didn't deliver on a regular basis. If you can remove them, there may be potential.
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Hi,
I know you say there's no such thing as a daft question .. but possibly here comes one ...I'm still following the 'Rubbish Tipster' advice (seeing how they get on) but I thought - and I am clearly not the first to think this - how about backing the tips of the top napster's. Presumably people have looked at this previously and discounted it?
Since last week (and I'm only paper trading), just picking the top 3 winning naps, backing them to win and place has had a combined 40.9% strike rate and made 12pts (85-15 split for the 'to win').
I'll stick with tracking it but thought I'd ask whether anyone has previously tracked it for a decent period of time and found anything more useful than my pitifully small sample size.
