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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    @keith-dow Stay safe mate, you will be missed... Feel free to keep in touch 👍

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    @keith-dow Sorry to hear this a valued member of the community. Hope all is ok with you , stay safe buddy and hope things pick up for you and return in the near future

    https://1drv.ms/x/s!AgAENvh6njGR8wT6kcGOYgHyGFQq?e=Zo3Tic

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    @keith-dow
    Sorry to hear that Keith, hope everything is ok and gets sorted mate.look forward to you returning later in the year 👍

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    Hi guys, unfortunately I am going to have to take some time away from the community. I've a couple of things going on and feel I can't give it the focus and attention it deserves.
    I do hope to be back when the dust settles a bit (hopefully after summer). I want to thank you all for the help, support, tips laughs and education I received here. It won't be forgotten (which is why re-signing is high on the priority list when things change).
    Take care yourselves and all the very best with your trading.

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    @alan-steward Enjoy , I have been for a nice long walk lunchtime trying to start a daily exercise regime as I have put on far too much weight since the gym shut.
    I had a quick look no money traded on the last French race Compiegne , it didn't meet the criteria due to the length of the race but noticed the race goes inplay but no video coverage and the odds had extremely slow movement even inplay. Will be following with no money to be traded for a few days and see if the liquidity picks up and hopefully the odds will move quicker then. For the time being I will be trading the usa Markets this evening looks like two meetings this evening and if the criteria is met will be trading just £2 stakes.

    https://1drv.ms/x/s!AgAENvh6njGR8wT6kcGOYgHyGFQq?e=Zo3Tic

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    Right am off to the allotment, catch you guys later... Am managing to get my bot to capture more in race data so getting there lol

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    Lowest traded price 1.01 next closest 3.0??? Glad I was in simulation mode lol

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    @richard-latimer Yep looking much better now... Got the bot running but am watching odds live as I wanted to check the pace of monies being traded

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    @alan-steward it's not too bad

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer Not a lot of liquidity though mate and in play action is key to getting more than one selection matched... Maybe it will pick up in the next 10mins 👍

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    @charles-cartwright Hi Charles, where can we find this data... Is it easily available to all online or is this info from another membership site... Cheers

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    I mentioned a while ago that I am working on discovering what if any angles can be used to deploy LTF once racing resumes in UK/IE. Still going through the masses of data but I can share with you this piece that shows the futility of using a set-point for your trades anywhere close to even money.

    I looked at every flat race run in the UK/IE for 2019 that had at least 6 runners, 4222 of them to be exact. Then I looked at what the LIR was for the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th place finishers in each of those races and calculated the P/L for two simple entry points....1.99 and 1.31.

    Of course will no selection criteria applied both of them were net losers but it illustrated clearly what you need to be looking at.

    Of the 4,222 races: 1,520 had only one horse (the winner) trading less than 2.0, 2,265 had 2 horses trading less than 2.0, 407 had 3 horses and 30 had 4 horses. Your net loss if you laid at 1.99 would have been -1,053 pts.

    Of the 4,222 races: 3,324 had only 1 horses trading at 1.31 or lower, 869 had 2 at that price, 28 had 3, and 1 had 4. Net loss trading at 1.31 would have been -338.6 pts.

    The point here is that you can't turn that first concept into a winning one no matter what you do.

    Will be back when I finished my complete analysis but I believe that course and distance filters are going to be the key and that potentially using two entry points to maximize the positive side of winning trades whilst maintaining steady liability will be the way to go.

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    That said, the 13:35 looks like it may be good

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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    Nothing qualifying so far anyway

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer
    4 group races on card tommorow as catching up from lockdown, so money will be very good I would think

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    @alan-steward decent amount of money already down. French racing bigger than German.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer Didnt really notice field size mate but having said that I feel it would be wise to see how their markets trade first ie how quickly monies trade but more importantly how much monies are traded inplay... Will be keeping an eye on it and run both meetings in simulation mode 👍

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    Ok who's going to try this out at Longchamp tomorrow? Do we have a max race size? Most U.S. races are small fields but a couple of these French ones are quite large.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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    Check out the price crash on racing to resume on or before 1st june

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    @richard-latimer said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    21:06 looks good

    More evidence that 2.04 MAY be the way to go. 1 matched @ 2.02. Another horses traded @ 2.04 for over £100.00.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=v8arsy1si4v0651ser69coa45&st=4r1o63le&dl=0

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