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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    #1701

    I wasn’t being critical, I just wanted to understand how @John-Folan made profit and I didn’t.. obviously liability v stake makes a massive difference.. and I’m fine with that.

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    #1702

    @karl-pick said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    I think the point everyone is missing, its a Marathon not a sprint!!
    Everyone gets different Odds as no one can press GO at the same time, hence the variance from one person to another, even if we are all trading the strategy!!
    The other thing is if every bet WON we wouldn't be still be trading..... well maybe but in sunnier climates!

    Put a lot quicker and more sensibly than me lol

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    #1703

    I think the point everyone is missing, its a Marathon not a sprint!!
    Everyone gets different Odds as no one can press GO at the same time, hence the variance from one person to another, even if we are all trading the strategy!!
    The other thing is if every bet WON we wouldn't be still be trading..... well maybe but in sunnier climates!

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    John Folan
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    #1704

    Now the Software results
    LTBF. One les selection hit and I did 0.2 of a point better than the software
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    SOL. I had two more selections as they were borderline so i did 0.7 worse than the software
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    Do I care? No. Because it all irons itself out in the end.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    #1705

    These are taken from my bot results

    Lay the Beaten Favourites to a fixed liability with my cash p and l deleted. Net profit and loss for each one
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    Short Odds Lays. To flat stakes
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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    #1706

    No one is going to get the exact same results as odds move way too fast. Even if you are running the same bot. It will depend on machine speed, internet speed, how many markets you are monitoring at the same time.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    #1707

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    0_1672136143199_BFCA46C6-C1C8-40C4-8BB8-D1F996866B46.png

    And that’s what the short odds says, so be interested to know how you made profit @John-Folan if you did them all LSO and LBF’s ? Because that almost replicates my day exactly!

    As I’ve mentioned many times I’ve got my own variation of the ltbfs. I also lay to a fixed liability on the ltbf’s. The short odds lays and the ltbfs I shove in a bot and let it get on with it. On the short odds lays I had two losers and 3 winners. I haven’t even checked the results against the software because yet. I had a couple scrape in at the edges of the odds range on the short odds lays so will probably be different. On the ltbf’s I lay all odds from 1.01 upto and including 30.0. To a one point fixed liability. Not flat lays as that is suicide.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    #1708

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @chris-osborne No its 3 to 15

    Thought it was 3-11 but I may be confusing with another strategy.

    You don’t have to take a trade if the odds too high for you

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    #1709

    @lee-colvin that’s what I’m doing you reduce your winnings but more importantly significantly reduce potential losses. I’d rather lose a max of £10 than £50

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    #1710

    @greg-mitchell Why not try and lay to a one point liability instead of one point stake Greg? There’s nothing on this earth that would make me lay a runner at 15 to a set stake, I couldn’t handle that kind of raw emotion 😂

    You might not win as much, but at the very least, you won’t need to stomach those huge losing days such as the one you posted above matey 👍🏼

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    #1711

    @chris-osborne No its 3 to 15

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    #1712

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @fraser-cord said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @greg-mitchell was there that many? Looks like I'm counting my lucky stars that I missed a couple then. Still a very poor day

    The one at 15 is one I need to check, but the other 4 definitely.

    Why did you take the one at 15, isn’t the odds limit a lot lower?

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    #1713

    0_1672136143199_BFCA46C6-C1C8-40C4-8BB8-D1F996866B46.png

    And that’s what the short odds says, so be interested to know how you made profit @John-Folan if you did them all LSO and LBF’s ? Because that almost replicates my day exactly!

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    #1714

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    That’s what the software says for yesterday at £1 flat stakes.

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    #1715

    @fraser-cord said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @greg-mitchell was there that many? Looks like I'm counting my lucky stars that I missed a couple then. Still a very poor day

    The one at 15 is one I need to check, but the other 4 definitely.

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    #1716

    @greg-mitchell was there that many? Looks like I'm counting my lucky stars that I missed a couple then. Still a very poor day

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1717

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    A profitable day all round. Onwards and upwards

    How did you make profit with Beaten Favourites winning at 5.6, 7.2, 15, 8.2 and 8.2?

    I had one at 1.5 and a couple of other shorter ones. Ended up about 0.5 points up. Was about 3 points up at one stage effort that late run of losers.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #1718

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    A profitable day all round. Onwards and upwards

    How did you make profit with Beaten Favourites winning at 5.6, 7.2, 15, 8.2 and 8.2?

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    #1719

    I shall be laying the favourites in these races 10 seconds before the start time subject to the following conditions:

    Number of Runners 4-14.
    Odds Between 1.8-2.4.
    DSLR: 3-200.

    Full strategy available here in the pinned post.
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-shared-strategies-megathread-downloads
    0_1672129900450_SOL.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1720

    A profitable day all round. Onwards and upwards

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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