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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #1761

    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @chris-osborne No its 3 to 15

    Thought it was 3-11 but I may be confusing with another strategy.

    You don’t have to take a trade if the odds too high for you

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    @lee-colvin that’s what I’m doing you reduce your winnings but more importantly significantly reduce potential losses. I’d rather lose a max of £10 than £50

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    @greg-mitchell Why not try and lay to a one point liability instead of one point stake Greg? There’s nothing on this earth that would make me lay a runner at 15 to a set stake, I couldn’t handle that kind of raw emotion 😂

    You might not win as much, but at the very least, you won’t need to stomach those huge losing days such as the one you posted above matey 👍🏼

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    @chris-osborne No its 3 to 15

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    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @fraser-cord said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @greg-mitchell was there that many? Looks like I'm counting my lucky stars that I missed a couple then. Still a very poor day

    The one at 15 is one I need to check, but the other 4 definitely.

    Why did you take the one at 15, isn’t the odds limit a lot lower?

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    #1766

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    And that’s what the short odds says, so be interested to know how you made profit @John-Folan if you did them all LSO and LBF’s ? Because that almost replicates my day exactly!

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    That’s what the software says for yesterday at £1 flat stakes.

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    @fraser-cord said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @greg-mitchell was there that many? Looks like I'm counting my lucky stars that I missed a couple then. Still a very poor day

    The one at 15 is one I need to check, but the other 4 definitely.

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    @greg-mitchell was there that many? Looks like I'm counting my lucky stars that I missed a couple then. Still a very poor day

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    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
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    @greg-mitchell said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    A profitable day all round. Onwards and upwards

    How did you make profit with Beaten Favourites winning at 5.6, 7.2, 15, 8.2 and 8.2?

    I had one at 1.5 and a couple of other shorter ones. Ended up about 0.5 points up. Was about 3 points up at one stage effort that late run of losers.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    A profitable day all round. Onwards and upwards

    How did you make profit with Beaten Favourites winning at 5.6, 7.2, 15, 8.2 and 8.2?

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    #1772

    I shall be laying the favourites in these races 10 seconds before the start time subject to the following conditions:

    Number of Runners 4-14.
    Odds Between 1.8-2.4.
    DSLR: 3-200.

    Full strategy available here in the pinned post.
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-shared-strategies-megathread-downloads
    0_1672129900450_SOL.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    wrote on last edited by
    #1773

    A profitable day all round. Onwards and upwards

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    Not as bad a list as I though. The Beaten Favourites list will give me a heart attack though lol.

    I shall be laying the favourites in these races 10 seconds before the start time subject to the following conditions:

    Number of Runners 4-14.
    Odds Between 1.8-2.4.
    DSLR: 3-200.

    Full strategy available here in the pinned post.
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/3531/horse-racing-shared-strategies-megathread-downloads
    0_1672044756884_SOL.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    replied to Kevin Pepper on last edited by
    #1775

    @kevin-pepper said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Just for information, these are the two LAY strategies I am running with compounding stakes(5% on LTBF and 2% on SOL). The results here are to flat stakes. The LTBF(Lay the Beaten Favourite) is laying to a liability so I can include odds a lot higher than I would normally do.

    But with a bit of patience and sensible staking you can turn in a good income from the software. It just won't happen overnight. Just be realistic with your expectations and expect some downturns(SOL are currently running at a 5% drawdown from the bank high from late November, but it's come back from worse) and you will be fine.

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    Thanks John and I'm following a similar approach. I've been looking at the SOL results and the results when laying the PLACE to a fixed liability are not far short of the Win results (the sample I looked at were +268 for the Win and +248 for the Place). If anyone fancies taking a look themselves it would give me the confidence to update my Fairbot strategy to lay the Place as well 😄 )

    I've also had a little play with the LTBF results and the Place laying to a fixed liability is also in profit but at about 50% of the Win market returns. Still a work in progress though....

    The place is under utilised. Wonder if Adam can do us the place markets as an option?....Nice work. Will get into it a bit later this week.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    replied to John Folan on last edited by Kevin Pepper
    #1776

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Just for information, these are the two LAY strategies I am running with compounding stakes(5% on LTBF and 2% on SOL). The results here are to flat stakes. The LTBF(Lay the Beaten Favourite) is laying to a liability so I can include odds a lot higher than I would normally do.

    But with a bit of patience and sensible staking you can turn in a good income from the software. It just won't happen overnight. Just be realistic with your expectations and expect some downturns(SOL are currently running at a 5% drawdown from the bank high from late November, but it's come back from worse) and you will be fine.

    0_1671793493170_Capture.JPG

    Thanks John and I'm following a similar approach. I've been looking at the SOL results and the results when laying the PLACE to a fixed liability are not far short of the Win results (the sample I looked at were +268 for the Win and +248 for the Place). If anyone fancies taking a look themselves it would give me the confidence to update my Fairbot strategy to lay the Place as well 😄 )

    I've also had a little play with the LTBF results and the Place laying to a fixed liability is also in profit but at about 50% of the Win market returns. Still a work in progress though....

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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1777

    Just for information, these are the two LAY strategies I am running with compounding stakes(5% on LTBF and 2% on SOL). The results here are to flat stakes. The LTBF(Lay the Beaten Favourite) is laying to a liability so I can include odds a lot higher than I would normally do.

    But with a bit of patience and sensible staking you can turn in a good income from the software. It just won't happen overnight. Just be realistic with your expectations and expect some downturns(SOL are currently running at a 5% drawdown from the bank high from late November, but it's come back from worse) and you will be fine.

    0_1671793493170_Capture.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #1778

    Everyone ask @Adam why there are no selections on the horses today. He will get bored otherwise 🤣🤣😇

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    John Folan
    replied to Caroline Middlebrook on last edited by John Folan
    #1779

    @mrs-h-m-price said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Oh I see, so it's not the DSLR of any particular horse that changes, but the favourite horse of the race. I'm not using any strats that use the favourite yet as I don't quite trust the bot to match the software for this reason!

    Exactly that. I know what you mean on the favourite thing but the shorter odds ended and 10 seconds out it doesn’t change 99 times out of a hundred. It’s a bit of a lottery apart from that. That’s not a fault of the software it’s just the way betting patterns work.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • Caroline MiddlebrookC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #1780

    Oh I see, so it's not the DSLR of any particular horse that changes, but the favourite horse of the race. I'm not using any strats that use the favourite yet as I don't quite trust the bot to match the software for this reason!

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