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The BTC Horse Racing Thread

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3961

    Todays Trobs. All a bit static overall at the moment. Not like last June at all yet.

    Filtered
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    Hcap
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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3962

    Bot working better on the jumps. Might be a dead loss on the flat but I will see tomorrow. Works manually though although a bit frantic.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3963

    My shortlist for a bit of LTB action today
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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3964

    These are pretty much John's(Dreammaker62)'s rules for these. I've added in a minimum runner number and the LTO last three runstyles. The only thing I can't do is compare the odds to the forecast odds and the Master rating at inform is used rather than the Proform rating. This gives me a shortlist of horses (56 today) which I will drill down into and pick one for each race. They are not set and forget and will require discipline. Yesterday I had Waters Edge that I laid at 15 pre race. It went out to 27 by which time I was long traded out, but then went on to win. Once I have finished checking them I will put my final list up I will be attempting to trade today.

    0_1623232435094_LTB Rules.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3965

    Today's trobs. Usual 3.5-9 filter

    Filtered
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    Hcap
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    I will be watching my LTB automation experiment today. Quite excited about that

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3966

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Problem seems to be at the start. I’m going to try getting the hedge to kick in 5 seconds after the start and see if that sorts it. If not 10 seconds. If neither of those works I will trade it manually.

    Seems to have helped. Although I traded a race manually late on where the horses odds were everywhere and it was never better than 4th and never threatened. Might have just been a late evening thing tho.

    I’ll run it today properly. I can see why Dreammaker62 does nothing but this though. As long as you are brutal about trading out for a tiny loss this will make you a lot of money if you have the time and patience.

    I’ll start putting the selections up as potential dogs along with a detailed explanation of how to trade them once I’ve had a bit more of a run at them.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3967

    Problem seems to be at the start. I’m going to try getting the hedge to kick in 5 seconds after the start and see if that sorts it. If not 10 seconds. If neither of those works I will trade it manually.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3968

    Manually this works a dream. I can pick out the donkeys alright and get my 12 ticks. Problem is in the automation. It hits the stop loss way too early trades out then drifts like a barge way past my 12 points. I’m trying a few different settings and entry times. It must be solvable. If it isn’t then I’ll quite happily do it manually as it’s like taking candy from a baby.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3969

    Attempting to recreate Dreammakers LTB strategy using informs race cards on the basis I can use the new BTC software that I am (after a small conversation with Adam) very excited about to do the same thing. John (dreammaker62 is his twitter handle) only does these and he makes a tidy sum. I am going to try automation.

    HCAP trob backtest still going well too. I’ve just been a bit busy with personal stuff but I’ve loads of free time over the next six weeks to really nail stuff down and give you real value to work with.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3970

    1 point across the two today. Only a couple of Hcaps tomorrow

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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3971

    Same as usual today. 3.5-9

    Filtered Trobs
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    HCaps
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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3972

    Todays. 3.5-9 as usual on both

    Filtered I won't be doing the Novice so watch it win
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    Hcaps
    0_1622963925558_Hcaps.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3973

    Scratch all round yesterday. Plenty of action today. 3.5-9 as usual

    Filtered
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    HCAP
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    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3974

    Todays. 3.5-9 odds range

    Filtered Trobs
    0_1622801026824_tROBS.JPG

    Hcaps
    0_1622801039489_Hcaps.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3975

    2 lost on the filtered and scratch on the hcaps

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by John Folan
    #3976

    A nice day's results all round yesterday. Plenty to go at today. 3.5-9 odds range as per usual on both.

    Filtered Trobs and Win
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    Handicap Trobs and Win
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    For the sake of clarity I am doing all the selections I post for trobs. All of the filtered for the win and the flat hcaps for the win as well. Long term the wins on the Hcap Jumps looks a bust so leaving alone.

    I've also noticed something else when it comes to odds ranges that I will look into once I have finished the hcap backtest. Unless it is something I can play with in the BTC Software Beta. (Subtle(for me) hint ;))

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3977

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    3.5-9 as usual

    Normal Trobs
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    Hcaps
    0_1622631010518_Hcaps.JPG

    I am continuing with the back test. I'm upto august but its a slog now as I stopped recording bsp and irl at this point. I will persevere and get back to you as soon as I am at the end of august, then each month after that. It is time consuming though so bare with me.

    Plus 4 points on the normal.

    Plus 5 on the handicaps. Decent backing the win too on both sets.

    Hopefully we get a run of good weather now (although a few nighttime showers to stop the ground drying too much would be nice) and we can get a good run at these.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
    John FolanJ Offline
    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3978

    3.5-9 as usual

    Normal Trobs
    0_1622630991375_tROBS.JPG

    Hcaps
    0_1622631010518_Hcaps.JPG

    I am continuing with the back test. I'm upto august but its a slog now as I stopped recording bsp and irl at this point. I will persevere and get back to you as soon as I am at the end of august, then each month after that. It is time consuming though so bare with me.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #3979

    @john-folan said in The BTC Horse Racing Thread:

    Point lost on each yesterday. Only action on the handicap flat today. 3.5-9 odds range only 🙂
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    Nothing hit. Boooring.

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by
    #3980

    Point lost on each yesterday. Only action on the handicap flat today. 3.5-9 odds range only 🙂
    0_1622556400071_Flat.JPG

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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