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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #941

    @Martin Leading on from that do people take precautions for games the first weekend after the international break, probably not so important for this one as I assume people are being cautious as the big leagues are not fully up and running yet.

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  • RyanR Offline
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    Ryan
    wrote on last edited by Ryan
    #942

    Something that I have been looking at for fun (I know sad!) but is the XG inclusive, to get a handle of the teams in the premier league.

    This was peaked by a podcast about Liverpool I listen to, they broke down this for each team and it was fascinating.

    Especially in the case of Chelsea, who were the 4th best team in the league on XG inclusive last season, the reason I liked it is you can look at it and see what those teams need to do to get better.

    The inclusive is everything, goals, shots, defensive etc... over the 38 game period.

    United fascinated me, they were 19th in the league at conceding shots.

    Just on that metric alone it make me really want to look at Chelsea, if they start scoring a few more they have a real chance for the top 4.

    I also liked it because Liverpool were very high on it, but then I spoke with somebody I know who until recently worked at Betfair and he was an analyst on the odds, he said they were using this stat to look at where teams would finish and price up the winners and relegation market.

    He stated that XG per game they didn't really like, how they are using it is to look at longer data sets and then see if the trends fit.

    One of the things he said they like to do is use that as a base then see if its starting to change, he used the example of Ugarte, will he stop united conceding so many shots on their goal? Maybe but he also said that even if that happens they still have the same goalie and same manager who has set them up in the way they have been set up to get the poor XG.

    Really interesting stuff. Well is for me!

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
    replied to Martin on last edited by
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    @Martin I will take selections on a case by case basis. Since there are less of them popping up you can deep dive a bit more.

    Had South Shields v Buxton on a FHG filter for inplay and I think the National League is so far removed from the big leagues I decided to take it.

    Only about £500 matched which I guess can be annoying as you move into bigger staking and scaling.

    Do you and anyone else think that during these periods that the lower league games liquidity and odds get distorted by big boy/girl traders dropping £100s into relatively small games?

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #944

    Interested to hear how everyone trades during international breaks?

    Do you take selections thrown up on your filters?

    Are you more cautious with them?

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    Akiva Anderson
    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
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    @Alex-Rule said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    International break just as the season gets started.........
    a man in a red jacket is standing in a hallway next to a shelf with rolls of film

    Awful, isn't it?

    Means I have to dip down the leagues

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
    #946

    @Alex-Rule absolutely ridiculous isn't it!

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
    wrote on last edited by
    #947

    International break just as the season gets started.........
    a man in a red jacket is standing in a hallway next to a shelf with rolls of film

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #948

    @Martin still early but they are pretty decent - only looking at match odds for this strategy.

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
    #949

    @Alex-Rule interesting, any liquidity on those games?

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
    #950

    @Alex-Rule nah, amount I miss out on would be negligible and I like Keith's thinking. By and large if it's not on betfair then it's more than likely a potential risk to my bank rather than an opportunity.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
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    #951

    Has anyone else played around with other exchanges for leagues for specific games that don't seem to appear in Betfair?

    Smarkets seems to have more games listed from the - Primera B Nacional and Primera B Metropolitana leagues with 6 games vs 2 on Betair?

    Do people feel like they are missing out on ops due to Betfair occasional poor listings or do people shop around regularly?

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Akiva Anderson on last edited by
    #952

    @Akiva-Anderson very poor you may as well pack it in 😄

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    Akiva Anderson
    wrote on last edited by
    #953

    Made 60% of my starting bankroll for August. Mad that I actually describe that as a poor month now.

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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    Simon Bates
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #954

    @Martin there's one league I can't remember which it is now, one of the Nordic countries, all the teams have just 3 letters, it's a nightmare trying to find scores for them 😂

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Alastair Todd on last edited by
    #955

    @Alastair-Todd sometimes Betfair gives them strange names which makes them hard to search for and they don't always cover their lower leagues.

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    #956

    The Finland leagues have some very quick first goal times. I am covering three games from my filter but all of them went unmatched as the goals came too early. Eleven goals between three of them by half time! Bizarrely I couldn't find one of the on Betfair at all for some reason.

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    Andy Donnelly
    replied to Ryan on last edited by
    #957

    @Ryan Just looking at the premier league odds as well. What price do you think Arsenal would be if city didn’t have those charges hanging over them?

    Can’t help feel that arsenals odds look overly short assuming I’m right that man city points deductions don’t come this season

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
    #958

    @Alex-Rule Canada

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
    Alex RuleA Offline
    Alex Rule
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #959

    @Martin good man- what was the league out of interest?

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  • MartinM Offline
    MartinM Offline
    Martin btc team
    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
    #960

    @Alex-Rule well it won for the strategy so based on one match that was the correct play!

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