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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
    wrote on last edited by
    #861

    @Martin - not sure if you or anyone else can help me with this....

    Price drifting. For set and forget I tend to place my bets in the morn before work. I've just checked an one of them that got matched at 1.8, the current price is 1.96!

    Does anyone know now to spot which way the odds will drift? Either coming in so you can jump on early, or going out so you can back later on or leave a higher bet on? Ta

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin on last edited by Martin
    #862

    Anyone else find it infuriating how much they talked about the artificial surface in Villa commentary last night? Like players would have never kicked a ball on an artificial surface! Think pretty much any player who has played at youth level at any standard would have at least spent hundreds of hours playing on those kinds of surfaces!

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    Akiva Anderson
    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #863

    @Greg-Mitchell said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Just looking at all the past football results I have recorded, never looked before, but when filling in my scores I always got a feeling that most Argentinian games ended Under 3.5 goals. so here's the results for any league with more than 50 scores recorded:

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    I don’t trade Argentine football for that reason. Lack of goals

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
    wrote on last edited by
    #864

    Just looking at all the past football results I have recorded, never looked before, but when filling in my scores I always got a feeling that most Argentinian games ended Under 3.5 goals. so here's the results for any league with more than 50 scores recorded:

    d3b9751c-22fd-499e-bb16-4f4af0197f5f-image.png

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #865

    Anyone who watched the Birmingham game that is an example of where one team has all the momentum after going behind. Keep your eyes out for games like that.

    Even at 1-1 you could back Birmingham around 1.9 and lay over 2.5 goals at 1.12 as a saver knowing there is a huge chance they score next and if not it probably ends 1-1.

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    GREGORIOS KARASHIALIS
    wrote on last edited by
    #866

    anyone going for under 3.5 in the parma game? they scored 1-0 in the first two minutes! its 1.5?

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    mick mcmahon
    replied to Joe Beeston on last edited by
    #867

    @Joe-Beeston I found if you add a filter for an odds market, then depending on timing if that market doesn't exist yet, then that would count as not fitting the criteria and not show in your selections.

    Granted generally on the day of a match all the markets should be active, but just something to be aware of if looking at tomorrow or further.

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Joe Beeston on last edited by
    #868

    @Joe-Beeston yeah that's probably the easiest way

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    Joe Beeston
    wrote on last edited by Joe Beeston
    #869

    As part of the super trader framework, it mentions about taking a range of different pre match prices, not necessarily the 1 or 2 markets you would be trading.

    Which do you think is the best way to do this? Manually going through betfair for each match that comes on to your filter, or just adding the betfair odds into the filter itself and setting it to greater than or equal to 1.01.

    Just testing an over 1.5 goals strat where i might enter 15 minutes into instead of pre match but the framework suggests getting a range of different odds (Match odds, over 1.5, over 2.5, BTTS) Just trying to think of the most efficient way to do it.

    Thanks

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    Akiva Anderson
    wrote on last edited by
    #870

    Not gonna lie. Had a poor weekend. Will make up for it with the Champions League this week

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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    Alex Rendell
    replied to Joe Beeston on last edited by
    #871

    @Joe-Beeston without testing this hypothesis (using software or the good old-fashioned way of monitoring odds movement/time decay and relative strike rates etc), there's no real way of actually knowing the answer to this. I've learned to take the approach that if a market has pre-match value, then you can carry that forward into the in-play markets to help better manage positions, "control" losses, and eek out extra profit. I know people who use this exact approach and have done extremely well out of it.

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  • Simon BatesS Offline
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    Simon Bates
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #872

    Layed Villa for £5 when they 1 nil up.

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    Trade came good.

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  • Simon BatesS Offline
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    Simon Bates
    replied to Shannon Townsend on last edited by
    #873

    @Shannon-Townsend that's twice now and I wasn't on either 😡😂

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    Shannon Townsend
    replied to Simon Bates on last edited by
    #874

    @Simon-Bates Everton the dream 2up matched betting strategy team at the minute

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  • Simon BatesS Offline
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    Simon Bates
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #875

    When Everton went 2 nil up today, I layed £10 on them.
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    After Villa had scored their 3rd I just cashed out.

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    I like these trades 👍🏻

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  • ? Offline
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    A Former User
    replied to Akiva Anderson on last edited by
    #876

    @Akiva-Anderson Anyone think AI could destroy the betting industry more than the betting industry has already done?

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    Akiva Anderson
    wrote on last edited by
    #877

    I’ve also went for a SHG in the Real Betis v Leganes match

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    Akiva Anderson
    wrote on last edited by
    #878

    Going for a SHG in the St Etienne v Lille match.

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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  • Matt WoodM Offline
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    Matt Wood
    replied to Joe Beeston on last edited by
    #879

    @Joe-Beeston Hi Joe,I certainly would do as then you would have an idea of the odds you need to achieve at the new entry point.

    Catch that Green!

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  • J Offline
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    Joe Beeston
    wrote on last edited by
    #880

    Hypothetical situation with testing over 1.5.

    If we have a strike rate of 80%, the break even is 1.25 odds. After reviewing the average first goal time, I decide not to enter until the 15th minute. Is there a risk that the 80% no longer stands as this could have been gained because of goals scored in the first 15 minutes, which I would no longer be getting by entering later?

    Would you essentially have to rework your strike rate from the new entry point?

    Hopefully that makes sense.

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