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Richard Latimer

That's from arseblog by the way

Richard Latimer

@Ryan I know how you're such a fan of the VAR audio. Thought this might make you chuckle!

Morning.

As much as I would have liked to draw a line under the whole Newcastle refereeing stuff at this point, we were graciously granted access to the audio of the Anthony Gordon goal in the execrable Howard Webb/Michael Owen TV show last night. To be clear, I didn’t watch the show, just the clip doing the rounds, and ten days after the incident – plenty of time for everyone to get their story straight – we heard the process of how they came to the decision they did.

I won’t insult your intelligence by going into it in much detail. From the off it sounded like they weren’t interested in the idea of the foul, and when a trained official says ‘I see two hands on his back …’ as Gabriel trying to stoop to clear a header, then completely glosses over that, you know the whole thing is nonsense. Especially after a weekend when the slightest nudge from Bukayo Saka is given as a foul and nobody argues against that – because we all know a foul when we see one. Except these clowns.

What’s so insulting about all this is that the goal wasn’t even the biggest officiating blunder on the night. I know what I think about the foul, but for the sake of argument let’s pretend that’s vaguely subjective (even though it’s not). It’s the Bruno Guimaraes forearm to the back of Jorginho’s head that is the big mistake.

Let us hear the audio of that.

No.

Ok, so go into some details about how that decision was made?

No.

What happens is Owen mentions other incidents involving Kai Havertz and Guimaraes, and Howard Webb, thinking he’s so smart, says inside of all 12 seconds, “Yeah, quite a busy game wasn’t it? Quite a lot happening in this important game. And yeah, a couple of situations where … you know … in the cold light of day analysis that we go through, going forward we would expect red cards in both of those situations.”

That’s it. They must think we’re idiots. “Look over there!”

As I’ve said previously, I could have lived with a Havertz red if it had been given. I cannot understand how violent conduct like this has been overlooked and paid lip service to by Webb, the man who is literally in charge of refereeing standards. Saying he’d expect a red card in the future doesn’t excuse his officials for what was a dereliction of duty on the night. Hitting somebody in the head on purpose, regardless of which bit of the arm it was, is a red card – there can be no excuses for missing something as obvious as that. And for the head of PGMOL to pay is short shrift like this is unacceptable. It’s an exercise in self-protection, with no real acknowledgement that he’s ignoring his main remit in this position.

I can imagine the audio all the same.

VAR1: “Mate, has he hit him in the head there?”

VAR2: “Yeah, Madser, he’s definitely hit him.”

VAR1: “Thanks Tugger. Should we tell Stu-pot to stop the game?”

VAR2: “Nah buddy, the crowd are already very angry. They might get more angry with him.”

REF: “Something on going on there my cheeky-chaps?”

VAR1: “Don’t worry Attser, we’ve got it.”

VAR2: “Let’s say it was his forearm and not an elbow!”

VAR1: “Is that in the rules?”

VAR2: throws rulebook in bin – “I don’t see anything there, cocker!”

VAR1: “LOL”

VAR2: “LMFAO”

VAR1: “ROFL”

REF: “Geezahs?! WASSSUUUPPPPPP?”

VAR1: “Play on. Nothing for you to worry about.”

VAR2: “The job’s Oxo, S-Dog!”

REF: “Swish. We can chat more about this later when the Three Amigos hit the town after!”

VAR1 & VAR2 [together]: “One for all and all for one!”

pause

VAR Tech [barely audible]: “That’s the three Musketeers, you morons.”

This fake transparency from PGMOL ought to fool nobody. The process sounds chaotic and nowhere near professional enough for an elite sport, and the TV show itself is just complete fluff. Even on the worst social networks, stuff like this comes with the word ‘AD’ at the top, because that’s all this is. Soft-focus garbage that might fool some but which only raises more questions for those of who can so easily see behind the curtain.

They can get in the bin. Or the sea. Or a bin that is in the sea. Under the sea, in fact.

Till tomorrow.

Richard Latimer

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Right, as promised in my thread. Nothing but the ones I can be most certain on. I couldn't easily write this one off as a bad trade. Lay under 1.5:

Long way back but the first is in. Now 0-2

Richard Latimer

Right, as promised in my thread. Nothing but the ones I can be most certain on. I couldn't easily write this one off as a bad trade. Lay under 1.5:

Martin

@Akiva-Anderson yep how can there be another one this quickly?

Akiva Anderson

Anyone bored yet?!

Adam

@mick-mcmahon As you said, you can just enter "greater than 1" to have them all show in the export. It does show "Criteria 1, 2, 3" etc in the file but surely if you know which column it is then you know which one is the price?

E.g. if you always make the price the first rule in your filter, then you always know criteria 1 is the price...

Martin

@mick-mcmahon this will take a few hours but you could go through Betexplorer and check the odds manually.

mick mcmahon

Hi, I've got a strategy hitting 76% strike rate but thinking some of the odds are too low. Its an over 1.5 but thinking it may also do an over 2.5. But need the odds. I've tracked over 300 games now and got the odds for some but not enough.

I know you can put an odds for over 1.5 in the criteria and put it as greater than 1 to just "record" it but the has a heading in the csv S crit6 or whatever.

So... @Adam I was wondering if in the software could have a tick box record odds and then choose all the markets to save then in the csv those columns are headed with market names?

Greg Mitchell

@Richard-Latimer Yep, a bad weekend all round on the football.

Richard Latimer

@Samo can't they just!

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@Samo

Correction:
i got 5 Lossers in a row! and nog -5%
things can change quick

Richard Latimer

@Dan-MacKinnon I'm still confident moving forward. I absolutely need to profit for the year. This is first goal.

Dan MacKinnon

@Richard-Latimer this weekend hasn’t been great but last weekend was good. Let’s take it month by month and see how it plays out

Richard Latimer

Absolutely shocking weekend before the international break. Onwards I guess.

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I'm up 3,38% this weekend

so i'm happy

Tony Hastie

@Richard-Latimer Mine was never going to be brutal with £1 stakes. but a distinct lack of goals was obvious. Apart from the strategies Im testing that didnt want goals...then there were plenty! Not a lot of action on the forum from most the regular folk...maybe they knew something we didn't

Alastair Todd

@Richard-Latimer Just about broke even yesterday. Today has been rubbish so far. My first two O1.5s ended 0-0 and 1-0, and my SHG O0.5 was also goalless even after 16 goal attempts and 8 shots on goal in the second half. Predictably, all the trades I didn't enter (due to strike rate or low odds) all went on to win easily.

Richard Latimer

Interested to know how everyone else's weekend is going. Mine has been brutal and continues to be.

Richard Latimer

More early goals followed by 3 hits on woodwork stopped the recovery and put me right back. S**t weekend so far.