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@james-everard I would have driven Havertz to Arsenal myself for the money they paid, madness!
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@Akiva-Anderson The Swiss seem to have plenty of goals in their games too. Decent at 1.31?
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Those Under 21's matches all look good for Over 1.5 Goals.
If I had to pick one of the three 17:00 kick-offs, it would be Czech Rep U21's v England U21's
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@Martin said in *****New Football Thread*****:
I would back Arsenal with a saver stake on City, Arsenal should be 2nd favs and really if they make a couple of key signings should be there or thereabouts again. Utd if they got Kane would be a real threat. Not convinced about Liverpool, same as with Chelsea.
Hi Martin , as i predicted Arsenal would bottle big time last season. I would trade Arsenal not to make top 4 personally , with Edu in charge of trying to get players in i wouldn't hold your breath absolutely useless classic example wasting 65million of that crap Havertz from Chelsea but then won't spend the cash on the players they need Rice and Caicedo !
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@Martin lol. I'm going to keep an eye on the safc prices and the relegated prem teams as 1 or 2 usually struggle. Although I support safc the team had a 5 or 6 key players missing for half the season, I have been impressed with the recruitment and performances. Will see what price they are for promotion closer to the start of the season but something I may consider trading.
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@Craig-vaulks I think Liverpool would have seen it out or got close, as history suggests. It's been down to the end of the season, to be fair a small back on Arsenal and City could be good, they don't have to win it but if they start well their odds will drop.
Liverpools first game could go either way too! They win that it could be a great start.
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@Craig-vaulks lay Norwich
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@Martin yeah waiting to see how the teams line up at the start of the season and also looking at first 5 to 10 fixtures could be useful for the contenders. Will probably keep an eye on the prices see if a decent opportunity comes along. Thinking of doing the same for the championship.
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@Craig-vaulks I wouldn’t lay it personally, also want to see who buys who before start of season.
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SHG in the Romania U21’s v Espana U21’s. 0-0 at HT
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@Martin man City are 1.78. To win again not sure what people think but could possibly be a bit of a short price. Possible lay maybe?
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SHG in the Belgium U21’s v Netherlands U21’s. 0-0 at HT
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SHG in the Ukraine U21’s v Croatia U21’s. 1-0 at HT
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I would back Arsenal with a saver stake on City, Arsenal should be 2nd favs and really if they make a couple of key signings should be there or thereabouts again. Utd if they got Kane would be a real threat. Not convinced about Liverpool, same as with Chelsea.
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@Ryan I really like this. I can totally understand why they are 2nd favourites. Looking at how the season panned out.
Arsenal couldn't cope with the pressure however I think if Liverpool were in a similar position they would of been far more likely to see it out.
Also looking at the competition man utd have been inconsistent, Chelsea could be anything next season Tottenham are just Tottenham. Only leaves Newcastle and arsenal who lack the experience at the very top, plus adding champions league football going to make it even more difficult. -
I'm seeing a few people throw shade at why Liverpool have been put second faves.
You can learn a lot about trading by reading this post.
In any market you have to think 'Who's going to stop the fave?'
Think about that for a second...
The Fave is Man City, who is going to stop them?
Arsenal fans out there will jump and say 'we nearly did' true but you didn't! It wasn't even down to the last game of the season. So how do you work it out then?
When you look at all the potential teams and you are pricing up a market one of the biggest questions you have to ask is the one at the start of this post.
- Have any of the others in the market beaten the fave to the outcome? (In this case the premier league title)
- How many times?
- How often have they run them close?
- Does the fave struggle against the second fave? (Motivation, mindset)
- Would they sell each other a player?
When you start to think of it that way you can clearly see why Liverpool are second favs (Which I am not saying is right or wrong!).
How can you use this?
Well trading is taking a stance, looking at all the variables and making a judgement. The beauty is we can go against the market. There will be many that think Liverpool shouldn't be second faves, which means they'll then lay them.
I don't trade Liverpool as it's my team but I can 100% see why they are second faves, because the last 5 years they've pushed City to the limit, they've won the league. Now, factor in their decline this last season yes... but how did they finish the season? Strong, I have 100% confidence City would never sell a player to Liverpool as well the way they have to Arsenal.
The market makers are smart, they don't want to give Liverpool huge value. When there are so many unknowns, now if Liverpool don't push City this season there is no chance they will be second favs the season after.
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@Akiva-Anderson I reckon we will, will pick a few up now.
Windows not really even open yet
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@Ryan said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@Akiva-Anderson All Liverpools scouts are there lol
No point having scouts if we don't buy players!
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@Akiva-Anderson All Liverpools scouts are there lol
