*****New Football Thread*****
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FHG = First Half Goal
SHG = Second Half Goal
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@Akiva-Anderson some decent points there. Cricket uses smaller and lighter balls and the boundaries are shorter. But I suppose the overriding factor for women's football might be how many goals per game, at the end of the day maybe that's what people want to see.
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Don’t want to get into a sexist argument here, but men and women’s football is vastly different. I’m not a lover of the women’s game, but I’ve watched the euros and my local women’s team too (Glentoran)
I’ve enjoyed the Euros and been grateful for the trading opportunities. The men’s game is vastly superior though.
I think women’s football could be improved, they certainly need the finance to help them, but there should also be rule changes.
I’d recommend making the pitches smaller. They can’t kick it as far as the men (look at the goal kicks, they struggle to meet the halfway line). Any shot from over 20 yards generally lacks pace.
I’d also make the nets smaller. Male goalkeepers are always around 6 foot or over. The female keepers are a lot smaller. They struggle to cover the net. They look tiny in goal
Anyone else have an opinion?
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@Akiva-Anderson i agree, my thinking is they have a good start the market overreacts and i get the hell out... they could flop though with the games they have played over the last year... that said they do have about 200 players in their 1st team...
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@Shannon-Townsend said in *****New Football Thread*****:
I have been looking at the outright markets for next year and so far my shortlist consists of -
Premier League - Chelsea - 9.4 - could go either way but hoping the momentum from the summer carries on for a few weeks and can take a small profit.
Top Goalscorer - Joao Pedro - 22 - see above really, he looks the real deal so a few early goals will see odds drop.
Relegation - Lay Burnley - 1.4 - they are a really solid side and will be hard to beat, Parker is not exciting but his football will pick up points and at such lower liability im happy to go with them.
Champions League - Napoli - 44 (hopefully) - they were brilliant last season and should give most teams a good game so think they will cruise through group stage and that should be enough to get a nice green.
Thoughts?
Think Chelsea may struggle. They’ll have practically played two seasons back-to-back by the end of next season. They look a solid side defensively though, they? Though I reckon they’ll start the season well, so plenty of opportunity to trade out.
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I have been looking at the outright markets for next year and so far my shortlist consists of -
Premier League - Chelsea - 9.4 - could go either way but hoping the momentum from the summer carries on for a few weeks and can take a small profit.
Top Goalscorer - Joao Pedro - 22 - see above really, he looks the real deal so a few early goals will see odds drop.
Relegation - Lay Burnley - 1.4 - they are a really solid side and will be hard to beat, Parker is not exciting but his football will pick up points and at such lower liability im happy to go with them.
Champions League - Napoli - 44 (hopefully) - they were brilliant last season and should give most teams a good game so think they will cruise through group stage and that should be enough to get a nice green.
Thoughts?
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Wednesday, 16th July:
Over 1.5 Goals (Value Bets):
17:00 - Fredrikstad vs Bodo / Glimt
Implied Odds: 1.23
Actual Odds: 1.25
Value: 1.63%20:00 - Norway Women vs Italy Women
Implied Odds: 1.28
Actual Odds: 1.36
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@Andy-Donnelly said in *****New Football Thread*****:
Wow didn’t see that coming. Great performance from Chelsea.
PSG need to show a bit of humility as well at the end there. Why are donnaruma and Enrique getting involved
That's why we like trading isn't it! You traded it very well all round.
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@Andy-Donnelly me neither, well deserved and yes PSG need to learn how to lose!
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Wow didn’t see that coming. Great performance from Chelsea.
PSG need to show a bit of humility as well at the end there. Why are donnaruma and Enrique getting involved
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@Andy-Donnelly said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@Akiva-Anderson have you done well on the club World Cup?
Agree with one of your comments previously that there have been easy trading angles at times.
Prior to team news yesterday I was leaning to laying PSG but when I saw team news I immediately swung the other way. Real team was all over the place, didn’t think they’d have a chance and so it proved.
Midfield in particular was a mismatch. Personally think tchoameni and Bellingham are overrated and in current form nowhere near the quality of the PSG midfield three
Yeah, some great prices in that. Chelsea around EVENS every match. Prices have been great. SHG prices have be okay too.
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@Akiva-Anderson Its unreal! lol I love it.
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@Akiva-Anderson have you done well on the club World Cup?
Agree with one of your comments previously that there have been easy trading angles at times.
Prior to team news yesterday I was leaning to laying PSG but when I saw team news I immediately swung the other way. Real team was all over the place, didn’t think they’d have a chance and so it proved.
Midfield in particular was a mismatch. Personally think tchoameni and Bellingham are overrated and in current form nowhere near the quality of the PSG midfield three
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Anyone else done really well trading this summer?
Think it's been the best trading summer for me
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@Ryan said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@Akiva-Anderson Well they have rumours they are getting Dominic Calvert Lewin as their main striker.....
Linked Calvert Lewin, Vardy, Kean and Callum Wilson? How far have they dropped?!
le jeu avant tout
Am Yisrael Chai
When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game... -
Chelsea lay to back went perfectly. Not often a trade goes almost exactly how you expect
2.9 to 3.55
That was one of those rare times where I genuinely think it was very close to being a risk free trade
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@Akiva-Anderson Well they have rumours they are getting Dominic Calvert Lewin as their main striker.....
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@Nikki-HALSALL said in *****New Football Thread*****:
I got told off by a friend who is a Chelsea fan a few years ago for admitting that I can't support certain English teams in European competitions, he said I should support any English team - I still can't. So Arsenal, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea no,no,no,no - hope I'm not alone
I'm the same. I only want my team to win and whoever is playing Man United!
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@Martin @Andy-Donnelly @Nikki-HALSALL despite my earlier comment about Chelsea i actually have no real feelings towards any opposition teams whether that be in Europe or domestically... over the last few years i have become very detached from the emotion of being a football fan due to ticket prices, having kids etc etc i dont get to Fulham that often anymore and so when i do i enjoy the day out whether that be win or lose (usually lose)... i get my live football fix in non-league these days which is great (and you can have a lager whilst watching) and the occasional weekend away in Europe to vist grounds Fulham may never get the chance to play at.
I like the thinking behind laying Chelsea ahead of tonights match and whilst my trading on the competion is done (with profit thankfully) i am intrigued to see how the odds shift.
