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@Mark-Maguire Thanks for your reply.
Your explanation makes perfect sense and completely understand now.
Much appreciated!
Aaron
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@Aaron-Rouse welcome ! Simple answer is that there is no difference other than your attitude towards risk and reward ..
If you back under 3.5 goals (for an example the Palace vs Everton game tonight) the odds are 1.33 so for a £10 stake the return would be £3.30 on a straight bet.
If you lay over 3.5 the odds are 4.1 so a ten pounds stake would make the liability £31.00 (to win £10) or to make the same return £3.30 the risk would £10.23 -
Its really down to personal preference which way you go. Hope this makes sense.
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Hi All,
I am new to trading, and was wondering...what is the difference between laying over 3.5 goals and backing under 3.5 goals.
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Nice little day to day
LTD
Partick vs Queens Park
Rangers vs Kilmarnock02.5 Split Stake out after 60 mins if no goal
Morton vs Ayr
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@Tony-Hastie I am looking for match action in previous games which suggests an early goal in the game .. it started with filters looking for what I think leads to goals rather than goals themselves and then when I studied the data I saw that first goal times were roughly as follows: first 15 mins 35%. next fifteen mins 23% , next fifteen mins 17% (so 75% FHG) then 9% up to 60 mins .. then it drops to 11% for the last half hour and 5% no goal which led to me work out an early entry point and staking - I sometimes trade FHG on these too if my stats say the % FHG is above 94% on the probabilities I calculate .
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@Mark-Maguire The Partick game has come up in my FHG filter which got me thinking....Are you basically looking for a FHG in your 1.5 and 2.5 strategies? Then trading out? Or is that over simplifying things a bit?
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Just a couple today
LTD
Partick vs Queens Park
Rangers vs Kilmarnock (if odds come in)02.5 Split Stake out after 60 mins if no goal
Morton vs Ayr
Arbroath vs Dundee Utd -
Nice start to the year with full house on these and other trades
LTD
Bolton vs Burton
Leicester vs Huddersfield:01.5 Split Stake Out after 70 if no goal
Chesterfield vs Solihull
Liverpool vs Newcastle02.5 Split Stake out after 60 if no goal
Tranmere vs Notts County
Crawley vs Swindon -
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@Mark-Maguire currently have Tranmere v Notts Co for under 2.5 FHG
Also have the below
Blackburn v Rotherham
Crawley v Swindon
Plymouth v WatfordLooking for minimum odds of 1.2
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Ok a couple for me today :
LTD
Bolton vs Burton
Leicester vs Huddersfield01.5 Split Stake Out after 70 if no goal
Chesterfield vs Solihull
Liverpool vs Newcastle02.5 Split Stake out after 60 if no goal
Tranmere vs Notts County
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Seems to be good value on the Sheff Wed v Hull match today going by BTC stats/Betfair goal markets, unless I’m missing something.
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That sense of anticipation when you've cut and pasted the 2023 spreadsheets across to a new 2024 spreadsheet (keeping all the formatting and percentage columns etc).
Good luck in 2024 everybody. Glad to be a part of this community. Bring it on!
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@Mark-Maguire Thats true, will reply to your post when we get the same games.
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@Matt-Hyam definitely be good to compare notes
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@Mark-Maguire glad you got the win. Did you want me to let you know if we get any games the same. Currently have average first goal of 15min and 1 goal in the first half. Dunno if this would be any use to you or change your approach.
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@Matt-Hyam just - stats were strong so stayed in a bit longer and then doubled down after 1st goal so ends up a profitable trade even though I will have to record it as a loss on here because 1st goal came on 61 mins.... so I'm pleased for both of us
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@Mark-Maguire I'm happy for all the goals to come in the second half. Yeah mine was the Welsh game. Seems to be plenty of goals in second half, hopefully they've came quick enough.
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@Matt-Hyam well today if you're on the Welsh game you're looking ok so far
PS Maybe we can come to an agreement - a goal on 55 mins suits me and you?
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@Mark-Maguire you always raise concern for me when you share you over goals bets as half the time I have the same games as under 2.5fh goals
️ odds didn't come in so no trade luckily