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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    Akiva Anderson
    wrote on last edited by
    #1921

    How can we possibly be International football again?!

    This batch of matches are really s**t too. Most of them are friendlies.

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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    Akiva Anderson
    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #1922

    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    So today betfair offered odds on a match which wasn't even happening as it turns out.

    Sometimes names on Israeli clubs change and appear differently so when I confirmed the home team I thought good to go.

    But no. Now cancelled/voided when I thought it had won.

    Hapoel Nazareth supposed to be playing against Hapoel Akko but they had odds against Hapoel Afula.

    Wait until you learn that Hapoel Akko are normally Hapoel Acre...

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
    replied to Arran Shackell on last edited by
    #1923

    @Arran-Shackell nope you can't win them all! We go again!

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
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    #1924

    Sorry no selections posted since Friday, was a bit grumpy and chucked my toys out of the pram (Apologies @Adam @Martin).

    If anybody wants to see my selections since Friday, let me know.

    Anyhow, here's todays, gonna be a quiet couple of weeks with the International Break...

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
    replied to Andy Donnelly on last edited by
    #1925

    @Andy-Donnelly Hi Andy, I tend to look at 2nd half 0-0% for both teams at home and away. I will also look at SOT and dangerous attacks sometimes to see if the game is lively or not.

    It's still early days and I'm testing a few different versions of a SHG filter to see what works - I will report back when I know more. I think it's a case of everyone just sharing insights and progress and we can create a decent filter

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    GREGORIOS KARASHIALIS
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    #1926

    @Greg-Mitchell ok, no problem.👍 👍

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  • Greg MitchellG Offline
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    Greg Mitchell
    replied to GREGORIOS KARASHIALIS on last edited by
    #1927

    @GREGORIOS-KARASHIALIS

    Hi, it's difficult for me to share my filters because they are not one-dimensional. I use a combination of multiple filters and calculations on the Football Ratings.

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    GREGORIOS KARASHIALIS
    replied to Mark Maguire on last edited by
    #1928

    @Mark-Maguire nice one…. Keep them coming.

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    Arran Shackell
    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
    #1929

    @Alex-Rule

    Not this time unfortunately!

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    Arran Shackell
    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #1930

    @Richard-Latimer

    I find the turkish names the hardest to match up.

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    Richard Latimer
    wrote on last edited by
    #1931

    So today betfair offered odds on a match which wasn't even happening as it turns out.

    Sometimes names on Israeli clubs change and appear differently so when I confirmed the home team I thought good to go.

    But no. Now cancelled/voided when I thought it had won.

    Hapoel Nazareth supposed to be playing against Hapoel Akko but they had odds against Hapoel Afula.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Andy Donnelly
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    #1932

    @Alex-Rule Yeh I saw this one too, looking along similar lines.

    How did you get on with these over the weekend just gone? I had been doing pretty well but was a bloodbath this weekend. Interested to see if I should be looking at more than just percentage of FT 0-0s. What other factors do you consider?

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
    wrote on last edited by
    #1933

    Might be worth a look 🔫

    LKS Lodz II 0-0 Hutnik Krakow

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    Trevor H
    replied to Arran Shackell on last edited by Trevor H
    #1934

    @Arran-Shackell said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Trevor-H

    Was this the one where you back a goal if they have a history of all matches having at least 1 goal by FT - If so, how are you getting on with this?

    @Arran-Shackell Yes, although you need to refine it a bit more than just 100% O0.5. I've found that FHGs and O1.5 values can be useful filters. I'm still experimenting, but it's running at 85% S/R from 57 matched selections, 5.5% RoI on a fixed stake in its current iteration, so it's not setting the world alight, but it's at least not losing. If it maintains that level, it could be useful as one strat among several.

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    Arran Shackell
    replied to Trevor H on last edited by
    #1935

    @Trevor-H

    Was this the one where you back a goal if they have a history of all matches having at least 1 goal by FT - If so, how are you getting on with this?

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    Ben Dobie
    replied to Mark Maguire on last edited by
    #1936

    @Mark-Maguire absolutely smashing it mate 👏🏼👏🏼

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    Mark Maguire
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    #1937

    Just let down by one in Denmark:

    01.5 Split Stake out after 70 if no goal

    Heerenveen vs Feyenoord✅
    Odense vs Copenhagen✅
    Roma vs Sassuolo✅
    Cercle Brugge vs RWDM✅

    02.5 Split Stake out after 60 if no goal

    Dortmund vs Frankfurt✅
    Verona vs Milan✅
    Salford vs Morecambe✅
    Nordsjælland vs Randers✖ goal too late

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    Trevor H
    replied to Mark Maguire on last edited by
    #1938

    @Mark-Maguire said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Joseph-Henderson no problem - because I'm drip staking I want average odds , but because if the large number of early goals I need to be in early(current average across my filters of 32% in first 15 mins) so my basic rule is start dripping stakes from kick off - albeit if odds are prohibitive I will wait - so for example if 01.5 starts of at 1.08 I wont get involved until its drifted but as I'm often trading more than one market I may be in on an 02.5 trade on that game.

    On 01.5 if I am doing set and forget I wait for 1.3 . On over 2.5 I look for value from 1.8 but will often have my first drip stake in below that.

    Hope that doesn't sound too sketchy

    @Mark-Maguire It's interesting how people approach value. I've made up these rules for myself for SHGs on no scientific basis whatsoever - just gut feeling. If the price is 1.25 of better, I back; 1.2 to 1.24 I put in an order at 1.25 because it will be matched in under 10 mins; less than 1.2 I don't bother because by the time it's matched there will be too little time left to make it value. But I've no idea if it would be better to back at any price and never miss a goal, or always ask for 1.3, 1.4 or whatever and win more from those that do come in. This is where some cough, cough backtesting software would come in handy.

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    Mark Maguire
    replied to Joseph Henderson on last edited by
    #1939

    @Joseph-Henderson no problem - because I'm drip staking I want average odds , but because if the large number of early goals I need to be in early(current average across my filters of 32% in first 15 mins) so my basic rule is start dripping stakes from kick off - albeit if odds are prohibitive I will wait - so for example if 01.5 starts of at 1.08 I wont get involved until its drifted but as I'm often trading more than one market I may be in on an 02.5 trade on that game.

    On 01.5 if I am doing set and forget I wait for 1.3 . On over 2.5 I look for value from 1.8 but will often have my first drip stake in below that.

    Hope that doesn't sound too sketchy

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    Joseph Henderson
    replied to Mark Maguire on last edited by
    #1940

    @Mark-Maguire Apologies Mark if you’ve already covered this in an earlier post but do you have a min entry odds for your first entry?

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