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@Chris-King 100%!!! There's so many different things that are fees etc... which are all just taxes in reality.
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@mick-mcmahon Interesting, what did you take from this?
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@Akiva-Anderson This is very interesting and I have been trying to set myself something similar and get more disciplined, couple of questions if you don't mind.
To make 10% per day from a starting bank of £100, what stakes/liability have you started off with and do you intend on sticking with the same stake %?
Do you intend on stopping for the day once you have hit. the 10%?
If you have a few losing days on the trot, and you are behind your target do you try and recover that or stick to the 10% of whatever your balance is?
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@Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@Akiva-Anderson I was trying to work this out for a friend the other day as we always talk about my head being in the clouds
Do you not pay betfair premium charge yet? Surely this impacts?
No, nowhere near it yet. Used to be you had to make £250k. I used Betfair well before I started trading, when I was a gambler! Probably lost about £50k over the years. So I have to make £300k before I pay the premium charge. Unless it’s changed?
The premium charge will either decrease or disappear in the future. However, for this to happen, Betfair needs a competitor.
le jeu avant tout
Am Yisrael Chai
When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
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Hello again - I just want to add one last thing about owning physical gold coins and having them in a deposit safe with an insurance contract.
This is an optimal way for independent economic sports trading life - because it has one extra function and that is you can not get a loan in the bank when you make tax-free money from trading as the bank would never have you as a customer with reference as independent gambler/sport-trader.
So if you for some reason need to take a loan you can not go to the bank - but if you like me have over one year of income invested in Gold Coins (not bars) you can take a loan at the pawn shop on your assets.
Is not a cheap loan, but is manageable and in my country, the monthly interest is 2%.I don't know any reason why anyone would like to take a loan - but life can be unpredictable sometimes you might have been sick for a longer period and not been able to trade and you might not have been saving for insurance or put aside money for this life-changing situations as an independent economical trader.
Then is a good thing to have physical Gold Coins as assets for more reasons than one.
That is the reason I also added Ryan's name to this reply because I would like to hear if he plans for such a situation and put aside a special account or money - for example vacation break or sickness period.Cheers
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@Akiva-Anderson I was trying to work this out for a friend the other day as we always talk about my head being in the clouds
Do you not pay betfair premium charge yet? Surely this impacts?
Trading Spreadsheet linked below
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0 -
@Akiva-Anderson I'm finally on the right track myself. I've often considered I'd like to try and do a Maria turning 3k into 100k by the end of 12 months but I think I'll need to draw so it won't happen!
Good luck with yours mate
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@Akiva-Anderson Yeah I’ve had similar, and nicely put. To be honest nowadays i don’t draw too much attention from others to my trading.
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@Patrik-Mellqvist Thanks for sharing this. I’ll be honest i am not an expert on traditional investing but what you’ve explained does make complete logical sense. This sounds very similar to property investment too, investing in physical assets, but i imagine the two are still very different. I have bookmarked your post
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@Ryan Cheers Ryan, and of course good points on the pension money..they will get their tax money from you one way or another given the chance. In this life if you have something worth having, whether you’ve worked your fingers to the bone for it or not, there will ALWAYS be someone that want’s to take it from you.
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@Ryan said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@mick-mcmahon One of the things that helped me understand goals and if there was one coming was...
Watching lower league football - it moves slower and mistakes aren't punished as often or as quick as top level BUT the patterns are usually similar so it gives you more chances to spot the mistakes.
Goals come from this:
- Mistakes
- 1 player doing something amazing
- 2 players doing something good
Thats where the lower league comes in on mistakes you can spot the mistakes easier, then it does move up but in the premier league for example a left back might make the mistake 2 times and theres a goal, it might be 5-6 times in the lower leagues.
1 player doing something great, when researching the players see if any of them have the touch of this in their locker...
2 players - again you need somebody who can get in positions to score, somebody who can unlock defences. When you research this as well it helps because when you are watching the game you can see if it's actually happening, for example Bruno at united it great at doing good things, his passes into the box are good very good. Main is also good at getting on the end of them... so if you start to see this happening it helps understand it.
I also like to look at a few of the stats...
- 1st to score
- 1st to concede
These help me watch the teams and question the attacks and the defence as a whole.
Also I like Avg shots per goal... not always that accurate as freak shots and things happen but it helps me keep a tally of X team scores first 80% of the time and they score 1 goal on avg every 7 shots... say its 10 shots in the game I am now feeling more confident.
I hope that's not just bored you and you got some value in that.
No that's really good info.
It's funny, depending on where you are in your "journey", you can read the same thing at different times but get completely different value from it. -
@mick-mcmahon One of the things that helped me understand goals and if there was one coming was...
Watching lower league football - it moves slower and mistakes aren't punished as often or as quick as top level BUT the patterns are usually similar so it gives you more chances to spot the mistakes.
Goals come from this:
- Mistakes
- 1 player doing something amazing
- 2 players doing something good
Thats where the lower league comes in on mistakes you can spot the mistakes easier, then it does move up but in the premier league for example a left back might make the mistake 2 times and theres a goal, it might be 5-6 times in the lower leagues.
1 player doing something great, when researching the players see if any of them have the touch of this in their locker...
2 players - again you need somebody who can get in positions to score, somebody who can unlock defences. When you research this as well it helps because when you are watching the game you can see if it's actually happening, for example Bruno at united it great at doing good things, his passes into the box are good very good. Main is also good at getting on the end of them... so if you start to see this happening it helps understand it.
I also like to look at a few of the stats...
- 1st to score
- 1st to concede
These help me watch the teams and question the attacks and the defence as a whole.
Also I like Avg shots per goal... not always that accurate as freak shots and things happen but it helps me keep a tally of X team scores first 80% of the time and they score 1 goal on avg every 7 shots... say its 10 shots in the game I am now feeling more confident.
I hope that's not just bored you and you got some value in that.
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@Akiva-Anderson I fail so hard at that. If there is a lot of attacking I presume there will be a goal, if it's quiet I presume not...
I need your brain, in filter form
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@mick-mcmahon said in *****New Football Thread*****:
@Akiva-Anderson that's a great start! It's not just discipline though, you either need the football and/or a great selection process/filter.
I'm lucky enough to be able to watch a game and predict a SHG
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@Patrik-Mellqvist I buy gold every month, I have a good ETF for it.
It's performed really well, thing for me is that when inflation is high gold has historically performed well.
(not financial advice!)
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@Akiva-Anderson that's a great start! It's not just discipline though, you either need the football and/or a great selection process/filter.
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Anyway, I've a lot of work I want started next summer around my house. My wife is 40 in September and I've holidays I want to book! This should help!
Week 3 finishes on Sunday, 09th June. My bank should be at £133.10. It is currently at £173.00.
This is just an insight on what you can do with very little money. Discipline is required!
le jeu avant tout
Am Yisrael Chai
When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...
