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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    @Stuart-Capstick said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Alex-Rule

    Calculate back odds
    1/SR expressed as decimal

    Then lay odds:
    1/(1-back odds)

    So, 85% strike rate

    Back odds 1/0.85= 1.17

    Lay odds 1/(1-1.17)
    = 5.88

    Fantastic so a strike rate of 82%
    1/0.82 = 1.22
    1/(1-0.22) = 4.54

    Is there an online calculator for this I can book mark for future?

    Thanks so much for the help - really interesting to understand! Cheers

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    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
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    @Alex-Rule

    Calculate back odds
    1/SR expressed as decimal

    Then lay odds:
    1/(1-back odds)

    So, 85% strike rate

    Back odds 1/0.85= 1.17

    Lay odds 1/(1-1.17)
    = 5.88

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    @Taff-Phillips said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Alex-Rule What's your expected/back tested Strike Rate? This will affect the max odds you want to lay at.

    I'm expecting about an 80-85% strike rate from a first glance. Is there a calculator that tells you the LAY odds based on that kind of win %?

    Help appreciated as I have always backed on strategies and now looking to add lay ones into the portfolio. Cheers all!

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  • MartinM Offline
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    @Alex-Rule find out your odds range through the testing, it's hard to guess what range will be the best for a strategy without the results data

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    @Alex-Rule What's your expected/back tested Strike Rate? This will affect the max odds you want to lay at.

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    #4586

    Morning boys and girls!

    I'm testing a new lay the draw set and forget strategy - currently I don't have any odds filters for the Lay price of the draw. Does anyone have a quick or good idea of how to calculate what my lay limits should be so I don't wipe out my profit? @Ryan you do a lot of this if I am thinking right?

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    replied to Martin on last edited by Richard Latimer
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    @Martin said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Richard-Latimer problem is both teams seemed happy with a point from what I saw

    I didn't watch, so the inplay stats were very different from the the way the game played out? Why Leicester wouldn't put some effort in baffles me but their away scoring record is terrible and Newcastle don't concede much at home.

    What were the chances like that Newcastle missed then?

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • MartinM Offline
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    @Richard-Latimer problem is both teams seemed happy with a point from what I saw

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Lay Under 1.5:

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    I'll analyse this loss as I do with all my losses but on the face of it the problem doesn't appear to be end of season related. Newcastle missed 3big chances/hit woodwork and Leicester who need the points offered nothing!

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • MartinM Offline
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    @Akiva-Anderson said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    The winter leagues are coming to an end...bad times. There should still be enough football to trade June / July...good times!!

    Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland, MLS & Brazil are my favourites

    Add to that Nations League Semi-Finals + Finals, two rounds of European Qualification...

    And Champions League Qualifiers, Europa League Qualifiers & Conference League Qualifiers...

    And the Scottish League Cup Group games start on the 15th July - Always good for goals.

    Not the famine a lot of people are predicting.

    Should be able to grow the bank by around 25%

    Hear Hear!

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    #4591

    Lay Under 1.5:

    02761362-d5a1-4487-9f57-a3fe9f1bc53d-image.png

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    #4592

    SHG in the Inter Turku vs Mariehamn mach. 0-0 at HT

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    SHG in the Haka vs VPS match. 2-2 at HT

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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  • Akiva AndersonA Offline
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    #4594

    The winter leagues are coming to an end...bad times. There should still be enough football to trade June / July...good times!!

    Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Finland, MLS & Brazil are my favourites

    Add to that Nations League Semi-Finals + Finals, two rounds of European Qualification...

    And Champions League Qualifiers, Europa League Qualifiers & Conference League Qualifiers...

    And the Scottish League Cup Group games start on the 15th July - Always good for goals.

    Not the famine a lot of people are predicting.

    Should be able to grow the bank by around 25%

    le jeu avant tout

    Am Yisrael Chai

    When you got skin in the game, you stay in the game
    But you don’t get a win unless you play in the game...

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    @Taff-Phillips said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    @Ryan

    Do you stick to the "don't trade the last 5 games of the season" rule/advice religiously or just use it as a guide?

    I'm just considering in terms of your Over 1.5 Split Stake Strategy and today's selection (Newcastle vs Leicester). Both teams still have stuff to play for, be it Champions League football next year or just surviving the relegation drop. I personally feel this is a game with goals as Leicester have to get some more points on the board so must be pushing. Whilst Newcastle could shut up shop for a draw and one point would see them right, I think Leicester needing something from both remaining games make this game an opportunity missed if not traded.

    Thoughts?

    Anyone else feel free to pitch in, all opinions welcome.

    Not a professional and only recently profitable but I pay no attention to it all. From my much more limited experience I find games at the end of the season more open and the odds can sometimes reflect this.

    In short, it's a qualifier for me as well and I'll be trading it.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    #4596

    @Ryan

    Do you stick to the "don't trade the last 5 games of the season" rule/advice religiously or just use it as a guide?

    I'm just considering in terms of your Over 1.5 Split Stake Strategy and today's selection (Newcastle vs Leicester). Both teams still have stuff to play for, be it Champions League football next year or just surviving the relegation drop. I personally feel this is a game with goals as Leicester have to get some more points on the board so must be pushing. Whilst Newcastle could shut up shop for a draw and one point would see them right, I think Leicester needing something from both remaining games make this game an opportunity missed if not traded.

    Thoughts?

    Anyone else feel free to pitch in, all opinions welcome.

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    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Lay Under 1.5 Ranheim

    The tiniest tiniest profit and the tinieest new bank high

    2-0

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    @Richard-Latimer said in *****New Football Thread*****:

    Lay Under 1.5 Ajax

    1-1

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    #4599

    Lay Under 1.5 Ranheim

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    #4600

    Lay Under 1.5 Ajax

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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