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  • John FolanJ Offline
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    John Folan
    wrote on last edited by Martin
    #1

    I've started a new thread as the person who started the last one is no longer active. This software is becoming more widely used by traders of all sports. Ask any questions here and someone will help. I'll also try and keep the thread tidy by posting any tested bot files that people post in the first post(this one). I'll try and reference the post number where they were discussed as well.

    This is a list of how columns need to be worded to import into Tips in Bfbotmanager from a csv file. You only need SelectionId or SelectionName and Provider. The rest are a waste of time. Note the spellings. They have to be exactly like that or your selections will not import.
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    GUIDES
    This guide is on how to import selections from the BTC Horse Racing Software when the strategy has specific horses as selections. In this instance I will be using the Slow Horses Strategy as an example. So it is assuming you already have the Slow Horses Bot I posted the other day in your BFBotmanager. You will also need to autoload all the Horse Markets or make sure the ones you need have been selected on the markets page. I've just got an autoload set up for all UK and IRE markets. Easy enough to do.

    1. Run your strategy and export the upcoming qualifiers to a CSV file(it should default to this automatically).
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    2. Open the CSV file. Delete all but today's selections as BFbot more than likely won't have the markets available. You will need to insert a column at the start and title it "Provider" Then insert the name of the tipster you used under staking in your bot. In this case "Slow Horses". You will then need to rename the column titled horse_name as SelectionName". Every other column apart from those two can actually be deleted. I haven't bothered. Save your CSV(do not save it as an excel sheet.) and close it.
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    3. Then open the manage tips page and click "Import Tips From File"
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    4. Your page should look like this. That's it you are done.
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    BOTS

    As always with any bots, test them yourselves on small stakes first. You can go as low as 1p. Simulation mode is a waste of time on bots where you need to trade out.

    HORSE TRADING BOTS
    My Trobs. You will need to add the selections by ticking them under each race.
    0_1655373214610_Clean Trobs.gz

    BTC Lay The Beaten Favourite 3-15 Odds.
    0_1672742301380_BTC Beaten Favourite Lays 3-15 Odds Range Flat Stakes.gz

    My Short Odds Lays. Very similar to Martins and can be adjusted to fit his as well. Courses still to be added are Exeter and Wincanton. You can do this yourself in BFbotmanager as the courses come up.
    0_1655373594735_Clean Short Odds 1.8-2.4 Lays.gz

    Back the favourite version 4. You will need to import tips using the same name as in the bot.
    BTFV4.gz

    FOOTBALL TRADING BOTS
    Ryans Split Stake (Post 2)
    0_1630317076147_Clean Ryans Split Stake.gz

    Gary's SHG Bot (Post 5)
    0_1630406152951_Clean GSHG Bot.gz

    HOW TO TAKE A BSP BET WITH A MINIMUM BACK PRICE

    1. Under Staking, click Bet Persistence and set it up like this.
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    2. Under Price Settings click Min/Max Selection Price and set it up like this. Note. You can only have a MINIMUM price for BACK bets and a MAXIMUM price for LAY bets. In this case it is 5.0 as that is the minimum I want to try to dob from for Slow Horses. Make sure you DO NOT have any price conditions under Selection Conditions or your bot will not work.
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    @martin forward testing strategies:
    Lay 3rd Fav (16th Jan 2023) - rules_export (9).json
    Lay 3rd Fav.gz
    Irish Dobs (28th July 2023) - rules_export (8).json
    Irish Dobs 1.0.gz
    Back to lay dobs (29th July 2023) - rules_export (6).json
    Back to lay dobs.gz
    Lay Beaten Fav (16th Feb 2023) - rules_export (7).json
    Lay BF.gz

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Gary Calvert on last edited by
    #2

    @Gary-Calvert I was using 'trade out 2nd bet' as well as 'hedge or close position' I will give this a go instead and see if it works better. One thing I have had an issue with is it just trades out 30 seconds after official start time, not real start time.

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    Gary Calvert
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #3

    @Martin I havent used it myself but this is where the settings are ( in the "after bet rules")
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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Tony Hastie on last edited by
    #4

    @Tony-Hastie yeah I wish there was a simple x seconds after inplay option

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    Tony Hastie
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #5

    @Martin I dont have BFbotmanager but my experience with bet angel is that its rather hard to get the right amount of seconds! Every race is different and is totally dependent on how your horse decides to run...and where it lines up for jumps. Ive trialled everything from 35 seconds to 3/4 of the race time and nothing seems to work! But if youve found something in the software that I havent and are happy to share Im all ears😁

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to John Folan on last edited by
    #6

    Anyone got an example .gz file with a horse strategy that works on trading out for a number of ticks in the favourable direction, or if that is not met hedges after x amount of seconds in the race? Trying to create one and want to make sure I am getting it right!

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    Kevin Pepper
    replied to Leon Farrell on last edited by
    #7

    @Leon-Farrell in the General settings for a strategy there's a Max number of bets per runner setting. Is that set as 1?

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    Leon Farrell
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #8

    @Martin I came at fresh again this morning and I think I have it figured out, I still had a tipster filter on my stake but only one bet can be placed from the tip being added, it work there as it fired both for a selection there so hopefully I’ve got there if not I message them thanks

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Leon Farrell on last edited by
    #9

    @Leon-Farrell contact their customer support, always been quick to respond with me

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    Leon Farrell
    wrote on last edited by
    #10

    has anyone ever come across an issue where bfbm wont place a second bet in a market, i have an adaptation of the split stake, and after a lot of pain, i finally have the first bet firing correctly, however the second bet will not go in. but when i turn off the first one the second will place no problem. its been driving me up the wall for days

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    ross love
    replied to Martin on last edited by
    #11

    @Martin Nice one martin, I'll watch a few videos on youtube and then have a go with the trial.
    Thank you

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to ross love on last edited by
    #12

    @ross-love yes you should be able to, have you watched the tutorials on their youtube? very informative. also their customer support has always been good and quick with me so if you get stuck worth asking them.

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    ross love
    wrote on last edited by
    #13

    Hi, I was hoping for some help and sorry if this is already posted. I'm looking to start automating some of my trading and was wondering if you can say set the bot to 'lay under 1.5 goals' if over 2.5 goals are below a certain price 5 minutes before KO?

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    Paul Foster
    wrote on last edited by
    #14

    Has anyone been having random selections ending up in the Tips Form?? I've had 4 today across 3 different strategies and no idea where they care been imported from.

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    Aaron Rouse
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Hi All, I am trying to import selections to bet on the home team to win. What do I need to add/change on my sheet for this to work please?
    Any help would be much appreciated.
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    Thanks
    Aaron

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    Patrik Mellqvist
    wrote on last edited by
    #16

    Hello all - I need some help from the community!

    Have someone set up the Split Stake & LTD Betgreen by Ryan with Betfair Bot Manager?
    I use my version of the methods but would find it easier if there is a complete setup to get hints on how to customize Betfair Bot Manager.

    If not I can get the coding job done by Betfair Bot Manager Team.

    Cheers

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    Martin Webb
    replied to Adam on last edited by
    #17

    @Adam Cheers. I’ll try and just manually add the selections to the markets. Should work, just a little more awkward than I’d hoped for.

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  • AdamA Offline
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    Adam btc team
    replied to Martin Webb on last edited by
    #18

    @Martin-Webb Our software only currently covers the win market, so the Market ID published in your qualifiers URL is the win market one. The each way market will have a different market ID.

    You'd need to be able to ignore the market ID in the tips URL and override it with the Each Way market ID in BFBM. The selection ID for each horse will be the same.

    I don't know if you can do that unfortunately.

    BTC's Website and Software Man

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  • MartinM Offline
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    Martin btc team
    replied to Martin Webb on last edited by
    #19

    @Martin-Webb I'll tag @Adam on this one!

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    Martin Webb
    wrote on last edited by
    #20

    Can anyone help or advise please.
    I'm running a horse racing strategy with imported tips from BTC.
    I have the market i need set up on auto load on BF Bot (each way) - all works there.
    The tips generated within the strategy load from BTC with no issues.
    However, i want my strategy to bet within the Each way market.
    But the auto loaded tips from BTC that show up in BF Bot on the Strategies, manage tips,tips form is showing the Win market under market type.
    This obviosuly means no bets are being triggered.
    If i change the market type i want to bet on within the market conditions in the strategy to the Win market, then it all fires as it should.
    I can't find anywhere within either BTC or BF Bot to change the market type.
    How can i change this from the win market to the each way market?

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