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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Alex Rule
    replied to A Former User on last edited by
    #261

    @Daniel-Mills

    Understood - how do you find just leaving the bot to do all the heavy lifting? Is the bot trading more games than you physically could as a human? Do you do all/some of trading with BOT and some manually still?

    Cheers,
    Alex

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    replied to Greg Mitchell on last edited by
    #262

    @Greg-Mitchell Glad to hear it's simple to set up. I'm keen to give it a go and see what I can create - its the way forward I think for sure.

    Can you import rules from other software (ones that give you selections)?

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    @Alex-Rule said in BFbotmanager Automation Discussion:

    Is anyone on here using BF Botmanager for football inplay trading? Cheers, Alex

    Hi Alex, I have a few:

    • One lays the draw at half time based on scoreline.
    • One backs a goal by laying the next unders market at half time
    • another based off the same strategy but looks for odds higher than 1.8 after 65 mins (so arguably, these two SHG strats act as a combined split stake)

    first one is still in the testing phase (strategy, not the bot - bot works fine)
    the other two are profitable and were profitable before I set up the automation, so no concerns there.

    I don't use inplay stats like SOT, just looking for times, scores and price. All other filters are done in the BTC football software.

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    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
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    @Alex-Rule Yep it was simple to set up, once you start thinking like a bot… No particular reason other than I had a strategy purge to concentrate on more consistent/profitable ones. No I hadn’t tested manually before. I was only using small stakes.

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    @Greg-Mitchell how easy did you find it to set up and test your strategy? Any particular reason that you stopped? And had you tested the strategy manually before?

    Sorry for all the questions aha

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    #266

    @Jordan-Carling said in BFbotmanager Automation Discussion:

    @John-Folan do you have the rule files for your strategies above mate so I can get them added to my bot?

    Which ones? All the files are there?

    Read the first post on both threads.

    Horse Trading Resources
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/1111/john-s-horse-trading-resources

    BfBotmanager
    https://forum.betfairtradingcommunity.com/topic/2915/bfbotmanager-automation-discussion

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    @John-Folan do you have the rule files for your strategies above mate so I can get them added to my bot?

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    replied to Alex Rule on last edited by
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    @Alex-Rule I have done in the past, but just put it on hold for now. I had a bot set up to back over 2.5 goals if the outsider at KO was odds of 4 or more and they scored first in the first half.

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    Is anyone on here using BF Botmanager for football inplay trading? Cheers, Alex

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    replied to Nick Mulvey on last edited by
    #270

    @Nick-Mulvey Understood. I have a version of this strategy that doesn't use in play stats - just number of and prematch odds so that should be fine.

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    Nick Mulvey
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    @Alex-Rule Yes there's settings to say what minutes to bet in. You can set it for inplay stats but not all matches will be able to have that data available to them, especially something like SOT, only the main leagues will have that. Yes you can set a minimum odds range to bet in

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    Hi all,

    I had a couple of questions about setting up an inplay football strategy.

    1. Can you set the bot to enter at a certain time in the game in MINS eg. 60 mins?
    2. Can the bot search for games that meet both prematch and inplay rules such as shots/SOT?
    3. Are you able to set a min odds requirements before entering the market?

    The rules would be something like below.....
    Game time = 60mins
    Number of total goals in game = 2
    SOT = 6 or more
    Once the above if found enter at odds of 1.4 or above and let the bet run.

    Would this mean the bot scours every inplay game for the above conditions and actions accordingly?

    I am brand new to the idea of automation and want to get my head around the capabilities before committing!

    Cheers,
    Alex

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    replied to Paul Foster on last edited by
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    @Paul-Foster Yes they do, particularly on horse racing, but you get the bot to place the trade out bet before the off at the same time as your initial bet but once your initial bet is matched, Set the required profit level and then set it to KEEP the bet.

    That way, as soon as the odds your hit required profit your money is in the queue to be matched without any delay.

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    alexander hughes
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    @Paul-Foster Surely on an automated DOB the closing stake is in the market just waiting to see if the market takes it ?

    You make it sound like you are manually trying to close out. 👀

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    Paul Foster
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    @Greg-Mitchell I've given up on these type of stragies with a bot. When inplay the odds just move around too much, so you never can get out as you expect. Tried with both BFBM and Bet Angel. Neither got any where near.

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    Andrew Gray
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    @Sean Thanks Sean. Absolutely bewilders me why that option would not be ticked by default though.

    I have noticed none of the values updated when I ticked it so I guess that setting is only forward looking. I can deal with the totals being £20 out as long as it stays that way, will keep an eye on it. Cheers again! 🙂

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    Sean
    replied to Andrew Gray on last edited by Sean
    #277

    @Andrew-Gray If you're on the BETS tab, it doesn't subtract commission, so that total will always be out.
    The P/L of your strategy should be calculated after commission. Just make sure in General Settings that the boxes "Use market base rate as Betfair commission percentage" and "Take commission from overall market profit" are ticked.
    The totals for each strategy aren't always exactly the same as the totals I've calculated when I record my results in my spreadsheet, but at the moment they are only out by a few cents and will be from markets where two or more strategies placed bets and I subtracted an extra cent of commission from one and BFBM calculated it doing the opposite.
    Screenshot 2023-08-14 174748.png

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    Andrew Gray
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    Has anyone else noticed that BFBM is reporting incorrect P+L?

    I have tracked it against my actual BF balance (no other manual bets or other bots are running on my account so the only thing betting is BFBM).

    On Saturday it reported a loss of £33.06 but the actual bank dropped by £45.79
    Sunday it report a loss of £39.13 but the actual bank dropped by £49.60

    It's not exactly a rounding issue, so something must be wrong with it?!

    Realise BFBM has nothing to do with BTC but as there are many users of the software on here I thought it would be worth asking on here first before trying the BFBM support.

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    James Menhenitt
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    Hi all

    Took a while because of a few issues at work and also with the nippers, but I finally got to do the U2.5 strategy with your assistance and I have managed to get it working well.

    It still sometimes gets out too early which I think is a problem between the "expected" start time (when the bet is placed) and the actual start of the match - ie just got out of one after 11 minutes rather than 15.

    I know there's something you can click which shows you what the strategy is "doing" under the hood, but for the life of me I can't remember what it is.....

    Can anyone point me in the right direction!!!??

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  • Alex RuleA Offline
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    @John-Folan that's really kind of you. Worked through a few of their videos last night but they are quite dry viewing aha. I'm really keen to explore this further and see what can be done with it. Watch this space! Cheers, Alex

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