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Aug 2024 £3000 - ? Bank Challenge

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Richard Latimer
    #3961

    Potential H2 goals if the moon is in Jupiter:

    0_1598392689149_6a1a78e6-290f-4d00-89a0-9f0160a915c8-image.png

    I keep talking about how awful Russia is, prob wouldn't do that one. Also Morocco. Doubt I'd bothere there either. EDIT: Morocco cancelled anyway.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    #3962

    Absolutely zero, nada, zilch today.

    Tomorrow:

    0_1598392176421_ac38a425-f3b0-467e-9b01-0e36f3cf54b6-image.png

    And from the stable of it may do ok but then again I have nothing to back that up:

    0_1598392237749_f334404f-4f07-44f4-b4a1-5951d8675b6b-image.png

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3963

    Also, on my Titanic filter is this:

    0_1598342826680_a1308b66-313c-4bbe-8da9-c0e30fe06b3d-image.png

    Lay away if 0-2 up.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3964

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    2nd half goal picks. For detils of how I play them, when I play them or even if I play them scroll up.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    wrote on last edited by
    #3965

    ELO's for Tuesday:

    Won't Stay Down (leagues I'm happy with)
    0_1598304589446_31e8d936-8ad7-42f6-8a22-c36aa9778dfc-image.png

    Can't Get Up (leagues I no longer trust)
    0_1598304673517_99ffe65a-14a3-45d1-a0c8-755b12001261-image.png

    Prob won't qualify anyway but if it does I'm staying away. Knock yourself out if you want to have a go haha!

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • RyanR Offline
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    #3966

    @richard-latimer I could watch Mbappe play football everyday and not get bored my lord what a player

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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    #3967

    @ryan-carruthers said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    @richard-latimer I've always thought France was low scoring, seems to be a really defensive league - I have zero stats to back that up just exp!

    I think it used to be but maybe PSG and those running to catch up have changed that culture a little.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    wrote on last edited by
    #3968

    @Richard-Latimer excellent analysis and update and validates what you’ve been doing.

    Shows us what analysis we need to do at times if having doubts

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  • RyanR Offline
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    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #3969

    @richard-latimer I've always thought France was low scoring, seems to be a really defensive league - I have zero stats to back that up just exp!

    Founder of BTC - Pro Trader - Main Sports Tennis and Football

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    #3970

    @finn-kristensen said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    @richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    No time like the present and I've had another look at some of the bigger leagues we'll be welcoming back soon.

    Netherlands is good
    Spain is good
    Italy is decent enough
    France is a bit MEH.....but not as many selections and as bigger league I would persevere there. It's really only one surprise result that's made it look worse than it is.

    The average number of goals per match in France is pretty low, If I recall correctly- that may have something to do with it? Maybe they are just better at shutting down matches when ahead?

    Could be. It's one to watch for sure but like I said, it's a big league so for now it stays. Also, in recent years I've noticed a lot of goals and some pretty low over odds in France so maybe the balance is redressing there. You have teams like PSG and to an extent Lyon, Monace, Marseille all pretty free scoring.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
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    @richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    No time like the present and I've had another look at some of the bigger leagues we'll be welcoming back soon.

    Netherlands is good
    Spain is good
    Italy is decent enough
    France is a bit MEH.....but not as many selections and as bigger league I would persevere there. It's really only one surprise result that's made it look worse than it is.

    The average number of goals per match in France is pretty low, If I recall correctly- that may have something to do with it? Maybe they are just better at shutting down matches when ahead?

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3972

    No time like the present and I've had another look at some of the bigger leagues we'll be welcoming back soon.

    Netherlands is good
    Spain is good
    Italy is decent enough
    France is a bit MEH.....but not as many selections and a s bigger league I would persevere there. It's really only one surprise result that's made it look worse than it is.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Finn KristensenF Offline
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    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #3973

    @richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    Bit stupid I know but when I get something in to my head I'm like a bullldozer and I delete delete delete.

    Think from now on I will collect these excluded leagues on a separate sheet and update p/l there as well. Will be interesting to see what happens.

    That's the best approach, I think. 👍

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3974

    Bit stupid I know but when I get something in to my head I'm like a bullldozer and I delete delete delete.

    Think from now on I will collect these excluded leagues on a separate sheet and update p/l there as well. Will be interesting to see what happens.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Finn KristensenF Offline
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    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #3975

    @richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    @lee-woodman said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    @richard-latimer How many games have you got from Belgium?

    Well over 20 now.

    Yeah, that would be more than enough for me as well.

    Lee obviously has a point on removing leagues based on very few data, but as you said, if you have to wait until you have, say 50 selections from a league before you can make a qualified judgment on whether to include or exclude a league, then you'd have to wait a year or two (or, in Costa Rica's case 50 years 😂 ), and that is obviously not realistic.

    Ideally, you would put the "red" leagues on hold when it comes to selecting them and including the results in the updates, while still keeping records on how they perform to find if they improve (and if the negative results you got were simply a matter of a negative variance for the league in question), however, you have a lot of systems you track and keeping records on selections you are not actually using is probably work you could do without. For leagues with a small number of selections, it doesn't really matter much if you remove them when they shouldn't have been removed, as the potential profits are small anyway, so you don't lose much by removing them. Later, you can always consider checking some of the "red" leagues again to see if they have changed.

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    @lee-woodman said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    @richard-latimer How many games have you got from Belgium?

    Well over 20 now.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    replied to Richard Latimer on last edited by
    #3977

    @richard-latimer How many games have you got from Belgium?

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    #3978

    @lee-woodman said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:

    I think if you are removing leagues on the basis of performance then you need a decent data set to work from. If you put your filter in place then look at say just Costa Rica and youve only got 5 games from Costa Rica then youre making a decision by analysing just 5 points of data. I do understand the temptation not to trade them as nobody likes to lose but there has to be a hypothesis AND data behind each trade. So why would teams from Costa Rica not be able to equalise when teams from equivalent leagues can? How do you know you havent just started the data from a bad point in the variance and that the next 10 would be winners? If you planned to invest in 10 stocks for 5 years but one dipped after 3 days you wouldnt sell it unless you had another reason

    Obviously its your call what you do, i just see people filter out certain leagues purely based on a few results and im never really sure why

    It's not just that. There has been only one selection previous in a whole year from Costa Rica. It's more the fact I don't feel I'm losing that much.

    Belgium on the other hand, it's pretty hard to argue for those guys. I'm never going to have a massive data set on each league as it will take years. But Belgium has been consistently incomsistent for what I do have.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    #3979

    I think if you are removing leagues on the basis of performance then you need a decent data set to work from. If you put your filter in place then look at say just Costa Rica and youve only got 5 games from Costa Rica then youre making a decision by analysing just 5 points of data. I do understand the temptation not to trade them as nobody likes to lose but there has to be a hypothesis AND data behind each trade. So why would teams from Costa Rica not be able to equalise when teams from equivalent leagues can? How do you know you havent just started the data from a bad point in the variance and that the next 10 would be winners? If you planned to invest in 10 stocks for 5 years but one dipped after 3 days you wouldnt sell it unless you had another reason

    Obviously its your call what you do, i just see people filter out certain leagues purely based on a few results and im never really sure why

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    wrote on last edited by
    #3980

    A few potential goal picks:

    0_1598226776284_67a2846d-c809-4a47-b4a8-861ffb5562eb-image.png

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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