Aug 2024 £3000 - ? Bank Challenge
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@konstantinos-koulamas said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:
@richard-latimer meaningful tactics to rule out early games from interrupted leagues. For normal leagues i believe you look 10 match back for each team regardless if home or away, am i right?Personally i tend to look for the behaviour of a team separately when play at home and for the other team when play away, also i like to look for their recent goal performance, so 5 last h for the home and 5 last a for the away is closer to my likings.
No, it's all home/away specific. Just that I'm happy after 4 games for each team regardless of where they were played.
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@richard-latimer meaningful tactics to rule out early games from interrupted leagues. For normal leagues i believe you look 10 match back for each team regardless if home or away, am i right?Personally i tend to look for the behaviour of a team separately when play at home and for the other team when play away, also i like to look for their recent goal performance, so 5 last h for the home and 5 last a for the away is closer to my likings.
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Speaking of JOFFS, here's what the data is pulling up for tomorrow:
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@konstantinos-koulamas said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:
@richard-latimer thank you for the explanation, i know already the rules, hence i didnt get in as well. May i ask for the scope pre-research (10 match overall, 5 last home matches for the home team and 5 last away for the away team or something else?)
I'm just using the scope of last 10 for each but I do use last season data. Only thing I've started doing is ruling out very early season games or in the case of this year, immediately after the covid breaks like Bolivia. Bolivia have been back for 4 games now which is good enough for me.
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@richard-latimer thank you for the explanation, i know already the rules, hence i didnt get in as well. May i ask for the scope pre-research (10 match overall, 5 last home matches for the home team and 5 last away for the away team or something else?)
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@konstantinos-koulamas said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:
@richard-latimer
its remarkable the success of JOFFS. Just a goal at Wakra Al Sadd arrived! i really would like to know more from your filters for this one!It didn't qualify for me as I'm only looking at late draws and getting in 70mins +
Really simple process. At present it's overall average goals 3+, ave home goals between 1.6-2.3 and ave home H2 goals 0.7+
Other than that I'm looking for 1.12+ on the averge bookie odds for at least one second half goal. oddsportal.com shows this under over/under, second half and then over 0.5.
There is literally nothing more to it at present. I get a shed load of potentials but only a few that make the final cut so to speak.
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@richard-latimer
its remarkable the success of JOFFS. Just a goal at Wakra Al Sadd arrived! i really would like to know more from your filters for this one! -
Got a BOGOF selection tomorrow as Adana Demirspor play @ 13:00
Going to take heed of the analysis I've done recently. If 1-0 or 0-1 @ HT I will red on the under 3.5 lay and still place the under 2.5 (1.5 SHG) lay.
Trading Spreadsheet linked below
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0 -
The game in Qatar was one I was looking at for a potential H2 goal but 0-2 score in the first at present rules it out for me already.
Only Bolivia left although I can see that's now a midnight game so I won't be up for 2nd half anyway.
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@konstantinos-koulamas said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:
@richard-latimer
at BOGOF strategy when you lay u3.5 g at kickoff and u1.5 g at HT what is your exit points respectively? right after first goal scored in both cases? or something else?This is set and forget. No specific exit points although as I touched on yesterday there may be certain HT scores to cut your losses on the initial trade and the leave the over 2.5 SHG alone.
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@richard-latimer
at BOGOF strategy when you lay u3.5 g at kickoff and u1.5 g at HT what is your exit points respectively? right after first goal scored in both cases? or something else? -
It's looking like Bolivia is back on the menu as all sides have played a few games since their return. Just as well, as everything else pretty scarce midweek:
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Thought I'd do some analysing of the HT score lines at present and what it means to the outcome of various entries on the BOGOF selections.
0-0 is still good. A decent chance of the over 3.5 still and exceptionally good chance of over 1.5 SHG. Still a decent chance of the over 2.5 SHG as well.
This is where it gets interesting. At 1-0/0-1 you might start to think about redding out and not taking the H2 plays. At 1-0/0-1 from 13 selections so far only 1 has produced another 3 goals. A further 2 goals is ok at 0-1 but not for the odds on offer. Hopefully this will improve.
At 1-0 a further 2 goals is still the likely outcome so makes this play a good one presently.
A 1-1 score line SO FAR, is almost nailed on to see a further 2 goals.
After that over 3.5 becomes very high percentage or of course it has already won. For over 1.5 SHG there aren't isn't a great sample yet but early indications are good but not as good as the 0-0/1-1 score line.
Over 2.5 will obviously follow a similar sort of pattern but at lower % probabilities and lower lay odds.
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@richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:
No BOGOF's tomorrow and here's the potential LTD plays (JO.F.F.S.):
Must be 0-0/1-1/0-1 @ HT with no prev goals scored unless leveler to 0-1. This must come 55mins or earlier.
Ave bookie odds for 1 SHG must be 1.12 or higher as per oddsportal.com.
No red cards unless already in the trade.
Getting odds of close to evens or under on these so even if strike rates drops massively from where it is now it should still be profitable.
No qualifiers in todays games
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No BOGOF's tomorrow and here's the potential LTD plays (JO.F.F.S.):
Must be 0-0/1-1/0-1 @ HT with no prev goals scored unless leveler to 0-1. This must come 55mins or earlier.
Ave bookie odds for 1 SHG must be 1.12 or higher as per oddsportal.com.
No red cards unless already in the trade.
Getting odds of close to evens or under on these so even if strike rates drops massively from where it is now it should still be profitable.
Trading Spreadsheet linked below
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0 -
Disappointing day today although not that red due to losing odds.
Beerschot couldn't even manage 1 SHG let alone 2 or 3 and it finished 0-1 so that was a loser on 3 entries.
Celtic conceded and managed to get one back so loss on the game was small, especially as odds taken at kickoff were already small to lay.
Bodo, got to love them. Winning 3-0 @ HT. A 4th just before 60 and when things were lookign dicey for the other entry points they popped up with another. Then They let one in and just for good measure they let another just before it finished.
Molde, odds very short so glad these didn't all lose. A late goal to the opposition sealed the 2-1 win and a split for small red.I'm back over 100 selections now but next lot of numbers aren't as conclusive so leaving be for now.
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The black box denotes a game where neither has anything to play for.
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Potential LTD today:
Den Bosch was on there but not liking 2-2 scoreline for now.
I''ll enter LTD on 69mins providing 0-0/1-1/0-1 @ HT and no goals/1 goals scored 55mins or less.
Also want ave H2 goal odds to be 1.12+ across the board which can checked on oddsportal.com
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@richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:
@richard-latimer said in All Goals Are Equal But Some Goals Are More Equal Than Others:
A sizeable list but important to note it's unlikely many will qualify as there are quite strict restrictions in place now to get to qualifier stage:
Revised list as hadn't been through looking to exclude promoted home teams and relegated away teams. Reason for this is I want home teams with form for their average goal tallys so need them playing against similar or better opposition to amass the tallys they have.
Opposite is true of the away team. As I want a dominant home performance living up to their average goal tally I want an away team used to playing against lesser or similar teams rather than one where they've come down a league and will probably bounce straight back up.
In terms of my LTD I've had 6 trades and not one breached 2.06 when entering on 69mins.
5 were wins and 1 was a loss. The loss was 0-1 @ HT and equaliser came on 59mins. The hisory showed me another goal was likely in this case but I think I may reduce it to if the leveller comes after 55 mins it's a leave. Plenty of opportunities without pushing it and I noticed that where another goal came after the equaliser that first goal was scored before 55.In any case it was good profit and because these are so low in price I'm not stressing over the equaliser at all.
The games in question were:
Salernitana
Menemen Belediyespor (loser @ 1.75)
Vasteras
Slask
Montpellier
Rangers (Chile B)Sporting Luqueno still technically in play @ 0-0 HT but I may not bother. Plenty tomorrow.
