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Aug 2024 £3000 - ? Bank Challenge

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    3 trades today with 2 coming good and the other being small odds:

    PJ City Fc (MISC-MIFA as it appears on the stats) v Perak. Laid under 1.5 70th min @ 2.12. No further goals. - 1.12pts (-£1.79)
    Pahang v Selangor. Laid under 1.5 70th min @ 2.7. Finished 2-2. +.98pt (+£1.57 after comm.)
    Saarbrucken v Magdeburg. Laid under 1.5 70th min @ 2.2. Finished 0-3. +.98pt (+£1.57 after comm.)

    P/L +.84pt (+£1.35)
    New bank stands @ £70.99

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Wed POTENTIALS, only if ALL criteria are met:

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    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    50/50 split today:

    Laid under 0.5 in Kedah vs Johor Darul Takzim (Malaysia)70th min @ 2.22. Ended 0-1. Forced to lay £2.00 at the time when my below minimum didn't go through. Worked out luckily. +.98pt (£1.96)
    Laid under 3.5 Cliftonville v Larne 75th minute @ 1.98. Stayed at 3 goals so that one's a loser. -.98pt (-£1.57).

    Bank @ £69.64 but until I reach and breach the point where I can increase from £1.60 the stake will stay the same.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

    Investing a further £5.00 into the pot today. New bank £69.25.

    New calculated stake @ £1.29. Will only reduce if bank hits £45.01 which is my stop/loss point for the ratchet I'm employing.

    One of the hardest things with a small bank without question is staking. Betondroid which I use for placing bets below minimum has for some reason blocked my latest calculated stake and the lowest I can do is £1.60 if I want to increase. Not the end of the world as that's only equivalent to around an £85.00 bank but still annoying.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Investing a further £5.00 into the pot today. New bank £69.25.

    New calculated stake @ £1.29. Will only reduce if bank hits £45.01 which is my stop/loss point for the ratchet I'm employing.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Tuesday potentials:

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    Will be in bed before Bolivia starts so that ones just for tracking.

    If anybody has any questions, please ask away.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

    Easy update today. Only one.

    Laid under 2.5 Dusseldorf 70th minute at 2.42. +.98pt (£1.15)

    As always details of what made this a qualifier can be found on the sheet and graphic I posted yesterday.

    New bank stands @ £64.25

    New stake calculated @ £1.20

    I feel I should point out that Ferreti in Nicaragua would have been 2 trades and a 50/50 split between FHG and LCS on the 1-0. As it was I was fast asleep in bed. I don't even know for sure if it went inplay but I have to include the result regardless if I'm not sure.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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  • Richard LatimerR Offline
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    #3148

    Easy update today. Only one.

    Laid under 2.5 Dusseldorf 70th minute at 2.42. +.98pt (£1.15)

    As always details of what made this a qualifier can be found on the sheet and graphic I posted yesterday.

    New bank stands @ £64.25

    New stake calculated @ £1.20

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Scratch Chile B. Too early in league.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    I'll be off to bed soon so the overnighters are just for tracking more than likely. Especially Nicaragua.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Monaco had a red almost the exact point of any potential entry. Not one I'd be adding. Still, great day. I'll post up POTENTIALS for tomorrow soon.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    Going to try and keep this as simple as possible and updating here before I update my sheet:

    Qualifiers only - if I don't mention the game, it didn't qualify and this can be backed up by all the criteria I've posted.

    Gia Lai vs Binh Duong in Vietnam. Qualified for 2nd FHG but liquidity not great and 2nd goal went in seconds before I was matched. In hindsight it was the difference of around 10 single ticks so I really should have bitten the bullet immediately.

    Yenisey v Chertanovo in Russia. Laid under 1.5 70th min @ 2.62. Ended 1-1. +.98pt (£1.13)
    Olimpiyets v Spartak Moscow II. Laid under 0.5 FH 20th min @ 2.1. 1-0 @ HT. +.98pt (£1.13)
    B36 Torshavn v Itrorrarfelag (Faroes). Laid under 0.5 FH 20th min @ 2.76. 0-1 @ HT. +98pt (£1.13)
    Olimpiyets v Spartak Moscow II. Laid under 2.5 70th min @ 2.7. Ended 4-0. +0.98pt (£1.13)
    Montpellier v St Etienne. Laid under 3.5 70th min @ 2.48. Ended 1-2. -1.48pts (-£1.70)
    Real Potosi v Nacional Potosi (Bolivia). Laid under 2.5 70th min. Ended 1-2. +0.98pts (£1.13)

    P/L 3.42pts (£3.95)

    New stake calculated for tomorrow as £1.17

    Now to update the sheet. The Monaco game was under surveillance but one of the criterias wasn't met. However, I will check to see what the data is telling me going forward.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

    I placed a really low odds lay (1.05) when I woke before realising this. Hopefully if anyone else was up, they didn't get burned.
    Next Ulm in Germany Regionalliga. Layed 0-0 on 70 for 2.52 as it fit my criteria at the time. Ended 0-0 so as I do with every loss, I look for something that made this different. If I find the difference I take it off the table until there's commonality. With this, a quick scan and I was able to see 1.15 for home odds was the lowest lay of 0-0 I had in my qualified results. I've now upped it to 1.19 for the time being.
    A losing selection that in the circumstances tomorrow would be avoided.
    Now to the good stuff....
    Shakhtar 2--0 up @ HT. Laid 70th minute and late late goal made it 2-1
    Heracles 2-0 up @ HT, early SH goal, laid 70th and finished 4-0.
    Cibalia 1-0 up @ HT, early SH goal, laid 2-0 70th - Winner
    Trencin 1-0 up @ HT, early SH goal, laid 2-0 70th - Winner
    Finally, goal crazy in Sesvete with 2 goals in the 50's and one 61st. Score 4-3 on my 70th lay. Unfortunately stayed that way but only an evens lay so no biggie!
    Nothing to change on this one at present.

    As @Darri requested:

    I placed a really low odds lay (1.05) when I woke before realising this. Hopefully if anyone else was up, they didn't get burned. My loss .05points

    Next Ulm in Germany Regionalliga. Layed 0-0 on 70 for 2.52 as it fit my criteria at the time. Ended 0-0 so as I do with every loss, I look for something that made this different. If I find the difference I take it off the table until there's commonality. With this, a quick scan and I was able to see 1.15 for home odds was the lowest lay of 0-0 I had in my qualified results. I've now upped it to 1.19 for the time being. -1.52pts

    A losing selection that in the circumstances tomorrow would be avoided.

    Now to the good stuff....

    Shakhtar 2--0 up @ HT. Laid 70th minute and late late goal made it 2-1 +.98pts
    Heracles 2-0 up @ HT, early SH goal, laid 70th and finished 4-0. +.98pts
    Cibalia 1-0 up @ HT, early SH goal, laid 2-0 70th - Winner +.98pts
    Trencin 1-0 up @ HT, early SH goal, laid 2-0 70th - Winner +.98pts

    Finally, goal crazy in Sesvete with 2 goals in the 50's and one 61st. Score 4-3 on my 70th lay. Unfortunately stayed that way but only an evens lay so no biggie! -1pts

    Nothing to change on this one at present.

    Profit from 4 winners 3.92pts
    Loss from 2 losers -2.52pts
    Total p/l 1.4pts

    As my stake is £1.15 currently, actual profit slightly more in £'s (although not by much).

    Bank stands at £59.15, stake remains £1.15.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    @darri said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

    @richard-latimer no im not talking about your results sheet, those sheets scare me im too simple to look at that, im talking about when your doing these update posts. Just gives a easier understanding of what your upto. If your gonna be doing a detail update on each trade may aswell add the p/l of each trade at the end of each sentence.

    Smart filters are a good step for you. Just stop with the constant tweaking. If your tweaking each day thats not because of you spotting something thats you reacting to a loss. Lets put it this way if stuarts ltd had lost in its first 2 months you would have tweaked it too much. Its now one of his best strategies. My late goals had a terrible start yet its now my best performing as i let it run its course. Let things breathe. This is truly where the fact your looking at way too much is gonna just ramp up the learning curve of mastering this strategy/filter. Iv never seen so many variables for an lcs trade before. I know it seems like im nagging, but im just telling you from experience this just looks difficult and tbh i will stop posting on here for a while, like i say ill come end of the month see how your doing. Good luck 👍 i dont want it to actually start to look like im having a go, obviously at times i find it hard not to always want to help and maybe on this one i cant.

    I'm out with dog at the moment so need to be brief. If I tweak it I can tweak it back. Without a these tweaks I wouldn't have to a strategy in the first place. Saved myself loads of losers from learning as I go. It's just tightening things up that can be relaxed as the data shows me more. A large individual dataset will take me ages to get. This is just making it playable while I get there.

    I will add p/l with trades but without looking at the criteria and detailed results it won't really be possible to truly understand what I'm doing on each.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer no im not talking about your results sheet, those sheets scare me im too simple to look at that, im talking about when your doing these update posts. Just gives a easier understanding of what your upto. If your gonna be doing a detail update on each trade may aswell add the p/l of each trade at the end of each sentence.

    Smart filters are a good step for you. Just stop with the constant tweaking. If your tweaking each day thats not because of you spotting something thats you reacting to a loss. Lets put it this way if stuarts ltd had lost in its first 2 months you would have tweaked it too much. Its now one of his best strategies. My late goals had a terrible start yet its now my best performing as i let it run its course. Let things breathe. This is truly where the fact your looking at way too much is gonna just ramp up the learning curve of mastering this strategy/filter. Iv never seen so many variables for an lcs trade before. I know it seems like im nagging, but im just telling you from experience this just looks difficult and tbh i will stop posting on here for a while, like i say ill come end of the month see how your doing. Good luck 👍 i dont want it to actually start to look like im having a go, obviously at times i find it hard not to always want to help and maybe on this one i cant.

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    @darri said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

    @richard-latimer add them on these posts, instead of just writing winner/losers say what the points/money won or lost was.

    You may be keeping the data but before each trading day your going into them with historic data that says it works, yet after each day your then tweaking? Please tell me you have a good data set as surely one or two trades each day arent affecting your data that much?

    I did that yesterday I'm sure but pushed for time this morning. I'll sort, to make it more user friendly.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer add them on these posts, instead of just writing winner/losers say what the points/money won or lost was.

    You may be keeping the data but before each trading day your going into them with historic data that says it works, yet after each day your then tweaking? Please tell me you have a good data set as surely one or two trades each day arent affecting your data that much?

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    @darri said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

    @richard-latimer you could add how much each trade won or lost points/money wise? That would make it easier to read and understand. Why are you tweaking everyday? Let things run dont focus on short term results. If this is a long term play let them run a bit. Your potentially killing good data.

    I'm not killing anything because I still have it there. That's the thing, I'm collecting everything. As soon as I see something different I can add/remove based on historical data.

    It's the thing that separates everything I've ever done before. The smart filters.

    I will try and add a new tab for actual results which can have points attached. Will make the most sense.

    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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    @richard-latimer you could add how much each trade won or lost points/money wise? That would make it easier to read and understand. Why are you tweaking everyday? Let things run dont focus on short term results. If this is a long term play let them run a bit. Your potentially killing good data.

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    Update POTENTIALS for today. Nothing has qualified yet so removed the overnight/early morning ones:

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    Trading Spreadsheet linked below
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0

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