Aug 2024 £3000 - ? Bank Challenge

[Richard Latimer]

Lay under 0.5 Sotra but odds seem way out of wack so I'm going to leave it unmatched @ 7.6.

[Richard Latimer]

I missed the Malaysian game. In the past this would have really messed with my head. Nevermind. Move on.

A mistake of not taking a game is infinitely better than taking one by mistake at these odds.

[Richard Latimer]

Not to be and when I look at the data it's the first loss on a 3-0 scoreline in around 20 or so. Them's the breaks. A quick look at the data and the stop start periods aren't unusual. Neither are massive runs so we'll see.

[Richard Latimer]

Lay under 3.5 MVV @ 6.8

[Richard Latimer]

@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

Tromsdalen 1-0

Same game. Lay under 1.5 @ 5.7

[Richard Latimer]

Tromsdalen 1-0

[Richard Latimer]

First trade is FHG in Tromsdalen. Laid under 0.5 @ 4.8.

[Richard Latimer]

Almost broke even today in the end after disappointment in states overnight.

4/5

Louisville FHG - Win
Louisville SHG - Lose
Sylvia FHG - Win
Sylvia SHG - Win
AFC Wimbledon SHG - Win
Sollentuna SHG - Win

[Richard Latimer]

I'm getting drunk soon so I may well forget this overnight potential:

[Richard Latimer]

FHG Sylvia. Lauren under 0.5 FH @ 5.1 (most @5).

Average amount available to lay between 5.3-5.6 which I would have done.

[Richard Latimer]

No markets in the Norwegian games. Nothing since last night qualified as yet.

[Richard Latimer]

[Richard Latimer]

@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

In the process of looking at tomorrows:

Lousiville looks like it's going to be a FHG. Match due to start in half hour.

Laid under 0.5 FH @ 3.95
Stake £1.74

0-1

Same game. Lay under 1.5 @ 6.4
Stake £1.74

[Richard Latimer]

@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

In the process of looking at tomorrows:

Lousiville looks like it's going to be a FHG. Match due to start in half hour.

Laid under 0.5 FH @ 3.95
Stake £1.74

0-1

[Richard Latimer]

@richard-latimer said in The £59.91 - Betfair Premium Charge Challenge:

In the process of looking at tomorrows:

Lousiville looks like it's going to be a FHG. Match due to start in half hour.

Laid under 0.5 FH @ 3.95
Stake £1.74

[Richard Latimer]

In the process of looking at tomorrows:

Lousiville looks like it's going to be a FHG. Match due to start in half hour.

[A Former User]

@richard-latimer all good mate, your reply just reaffirms what iv been saying. You have an answer for everything, which is either good for you being so focussed or bad in your tunnel visioned. We both have stubborn personalities which i assume gets us both in trouble in and out of trading at times. Only a good thing when we are right especially with money. So i hope in time you make this work for yourself. You have deposited your way to £139.91 as you have only added £5 since last post. So these are only just in profit. But for the first time a glimmer of hope as its now not in the red. However given the prices you are trading your only a few losses away from entering the red zone. Its the hard part of SHGs if you mess up on data a couple times. I did that last month. Your also having watchlists of +30 games some weekends! I mean how thats manageable long term i dont know, hopefully in time youll eliminate leagues enough so that doesnt become bigger, especially when main leagues pick up. You have been posting about some games in past week or so having almost no liquidity so you can clearly see that some are pointless building data on. Iv said this before but this time i mean it, ill stop pestering you with my opinions or advice. I think this strategy needs time to develop. I think youll get there. I just hope you manage yourself well. That for me isnt something i can know, you are you, i dont know what your lifestyle is or what you want. But all i see is me a few years ago staring at a good strategy with way too many games to manage. This way of trading just creates burnout and makes you not focus on yourself and family/friends. Ill look to keep updated and i hope this works and this month repeats lasts, just keep in mind not just mine but others advice, its been pretty consistent on topics.

[Richard Latimer]

Excuse typos

[Richard Latimer]

@darri it's not that ignoring everything I assure you. Wouldn't be on this new path of not for back and forth of recent.

It's more along the lines of taking some stuff on board but also wanting to find my own way. Most scorelines are very similar actually. Certain ones have differences as this is what I've found works.

0-0, 0-1 and 1-0 for example. I find a blanket approach simply does not work for me on these scorelines.

Don't worry about best performing leagues. It's Bundesliga, Serie A and Netherlands by a country mile!

The lower leagues will do me for 1 or 2 years I reckon. If I see 50-£100 available to trade at a given price. That's fine for a long time.

I suppose in some ways I do like to prove people wrong but also when things are questioned it just makes me want to dig deep into the bowels of things and to be fair I think my responses in this case justify the use of those particular leagues.

I made almost £30 last month aside from deposits so wouldn't say I was completely relying on these. That said, they are helping me build quicker in this early stage. I'm never putting in more than £5 a week either.

I enjoy the constructive criticism so please don't stop. It helps me focus better. My system wouldn't be what it is without it.

[A Former User]

@richard-latimer i know it probably feels like people have given you criticism and you have seen it as i need to prove them wrong, but please believe that those who have, have done it in a constructive way. They havent just said this wont work. Personally iv thought about this and im growing more of the opinion to just leave my opinion out or advice as you dont really want it. I think your way to trade will come as a result of ups and downs and eventually youll find your feet, slowly it seems you are, despite these runs still relying on deposits rather than p/l right now to grow the bank but tweaks here and there will hopefully correct that on your journey. Just dont think that you need to be proving people wrong, do this only for yourself. I was the same when people offered advice i was like no i can see my way works long term. Maybe we are the same in that regard and hopefully this happens here that you turn the same corner. But dont be feeling like your battling against everyone here, they only offered help because they wanted to help you as lets be honest you have struggled over the years to make this work. Think back to the lay the underdog strategy, the advice people gave or the last thing you were developing that was a huge list, all the advice was right.

In terms of a misconception about trading a big list, its because you post a big watchlist full of obscure leagues that has small liquidity. Its leagues that in time you wont be able to trade. Fair enough trade them now, but in time they will need to be taken away, if they are your best performers then in time that devalues your strategy. The list of scenarios and criteria for a game to qualify is quite alot in fact they are almost individual strategies in themselves. Thats what people mean. They are encouraging you to think long term. We both know how hard it is not to make mistakes, i just see you adding complexity to things that could be left so simple.

Dont think people are out to slag you or prove you wrong, that would not sit well with anyone on here, those people dont have a place here. Its just their experience has said dont do x and y and they see you doing those things. I do actually think you will nail something very soon, i hope its this lcs, despite these big runs your still not making the significant gains and relying on deposits, i hope this changes. Just wanted to post to let you know its constructive and not people trying to say your doing it wrong, there is no one way to trade. As iv said iv realised that you are going down your own path and nothing people say will help/hinder this path. But i felt i wanted to reply given your last post and just re affirm the people offering advice are doing it because they have done those things and found them to not be good. Its not us going oh look he is doing x wrongly lets pull him up, its friendly advice. Its not you against us its everyone looking out for each other cause this industry holds no prisoners in terms of being a hard one to grasp and stay in.