The BTC Football Trading Thread
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@richard-latimer do you find Taiwan a decent league to trade? always assumed it wasn't
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@martin-futter said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
Games to lay the underdog if they take the lead.
The stronger team is noted below as either the home team or away team, we lay the opposition should they take the lead.13:00 Indjija v Vojvodina Away 177 72
1:30 PM Norrkoping v Kalmar Home 296 68
2:00 PM Energetik v Belshina Home 112 82
3:00 PM Viitorul v Poli Iasi Home 180 70
4:00 PM Slavia Prague v Zlin Home 373 90
4:30 PM Hammarby v Ostersunds Home 225 74
4.45PM Ludogorets v Botev Plodiv Home 297 88
5:00 PM Slask Wroclaw v LKS Lodz Home 126 67
6:00 PM Partizan v Cukaricki Home 137 84
6:30 PM Real Madrid v Eibar Home 251 83
7:00 PM CSKA Sofia v Lok Plodiv Home 274 65
7:30 PM Olympiakos v Aris Home 293 81
8:05 PM Videoton v Ujpest Home 149 63@Martin-Futter You beat me to it but you may have missed a couple perhaps intentionally haha!!
Trading Spreadsheet linked below
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3gnk1vku1krkoyfcq37y6/Trading-Bible.xlsx?rlkey=01eqhp8u73s61iy2s814sqfll&dl=0 -
Here is my watchlist for tomorrow
Back over 1.5 goals at half time if 0-0
16.00pm Austria Bundesliga - Hartberg vs Sturm Graz
17.00pm Poland Ekstraklasa - Gornik Z vs Legia Warsaw
17.00pm Poland Ekstraklasa -Slask Wroclaw vs Lks LodzLTD AT 60MINS IF 0-0 OR 1-1 AND NO SECOND HALF GOAL
15.00pm Ukraine Prem - Kolos Kovalyovka vs Shakhtar Donetsk
16.00pm Austria Bundesliga - Hartberg vs Sturm Graz
17.00pm Germany Bundesliga - Schalke vs Bayer Leverkusen
17.00pm Poland Ekstraklasa - Gornik Z vs Legia Warsaw
17.00pm Poland Ekstraklasa -Slask Wroclaw vs Lks Lodz
17.00pm Poland Ekstraklasa -Arka Gdynia v Wisla
18,00pm Serbia Super League- Partizan vs Cukaricki
18.30pm Austria Bundesliga- Salzburg vs Lask Linz
19.00pm Denmark Superliga -Brondby vs Aarhus
19.00pm Turkey Superliga- Gaziantep vs Ankaragucu
21,00pm Spain La Liga- Real Sociedad vs OsasunaLATE LAY THE DRAW SPLIT STAKE ON 73RD AND 84TH MINS
14.30pm German Bundesliga- Fsv Mainz vs Fc Augsburg
16.00pm Austria Bundesliga - Hartberg vs Sturm Graz
18,00pm Serbia Super League- Partizan vs Cukaricki
18.30pm Austria Bundesliga- Salzburg vs Lask Linz -
@james-everard. Hi James
Glad you took time out to reflect/recover.I saw your possible list earlier today and thought it was a lot of games.I havent followed or checked your results as I was focusing on racing today...but sometimes Less is more.
We live and learn .
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@martin-futter exactly mate, I’d rather see that goal come in knowing I was on the right track it just came to soon.
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Hi All, like I said earlier I had a very frustrating days trading. I have got to look longer term than trying to get in as many trades as possible and if I only have 6 trades on Saturday so be it. I have refined my filters again to get rid of the lower leagues of Europe as opposed to 5 weeks ago we have plenty to choose from now and not needing to trade the likes of the Nicaraguan leagues etc.
I was getting frustrated as I kept out on missing out on trades just before my entry points or waiting for inplay action to improve or better odds and a goal happens when you don't want.
Here are my results for today anyway here's to an new day tomorrow and at least I have protected my bank by going for a walk and clearing my head.Back over 1.5 goals if 0-0 at Half Time
14.30pm German Bundesliga- Kc Koln vs Union Berlin ( No trade goal in 39th min)
14.30pm German Bundesliga- Dusseldorf vs Dortmund ( Trade lost 0-1 95th min goal)Lat the draw on 60mins if no second half goal and 0-0 or 1-1
13.00pm German Liga 3- Munich 1860 vs Hansa Rostock ( Didn't trade as goal went in on 60mins as trying to trade)
13.00pm Spain La Liga- Espanyol vs Alaves ( No Trade)
14.30pm German Bundesliga- Dusseldorf vs Dortmund ( Missed trade would have won)
14.30pm German Bundesliga- Kc Koln vs Union Berlin ( No Trade)
15.00pm Ukraine Prem- Fk Zorya Luhansk vs Dynamo Kiev ( No trade 1st goal came 54th min)
16.00pm Austria Bundesliga- Altach vs St Polten ( No Trade)
16.30pm Turkey Super Liga- Basaksehir vs Alanyaspor ( missed trade)
16.40pm Poland Div 1- Gks Belchatow vs Zaglenie Sosnovie ( No Trade)
19.00pm Israel Ligat Ha'al- Maccabi Haifa vs Beitar Jerusalem (Trade lost)
19.00pm Bulgaria Parva- Slavia Sofia vs Beroe ( No Trade)
19.00pm Serbia Superliga- Radnik vs Radnicki Nis ( Trade Won)
19.00pm Turkey Superliga- Besiktas vs Antalyaspor ( No Trade)
21.00pm Spain La Liga- Mallorca vs Barcelona ( No Trade)Late goal split stake if drawing on 74th mins and 83mins
12Noon - German Bundesliga 2- Heidenheim vs Regensburg ( No Trade as not a draw but goals in 74th,81st and 86mins)
15.00pm Ukraine Prem - Zorya Luhansk vs Dyn Kiev ( No Trade as was 1-1 but again just pressing the button to trade and a goal in the 74th min)
19.00pm Turkey Super league- Besiktas vs Antalyaspor( No Trade and no goals in this time period)
19.00pm Israel Ligat Ha'al- Maccabi Haifa vs Beitar Jerusalem ( Trade lost 0-0 ft)
19.00pm Bulgaria Parva- Slavia Sofia vs Beroe ( No Trade but a goal in the 76th min)Lay the Underdog if they take the lead
13.00pm German 3liga- Braunschweig v Sonnenhof Grossaspach ( Lay away) ( No Trade)
14.00pm Belarus Vysshaya Liga -Neman v Smolevichi STI (Lay away) ( No Trade)
14.30pm German Bundesliga- Dusseldorf vs Dortmund( Lay home) (No Trade)
15.55pm Hungary Otp Bank Liga -Ferencvaros v Kisvarda (Lay away) (No Trade)
16.30pm Turkey Superliga- Basaksehir v Alanyaspor (Lay away) (No Trade)
16.45pm Bulgaria Parva Liga- Cherno More v Bistritsa ( lay away) ( No Trade)
17.00pm Slovakia Fortuna Liga -Slovan Bratislava v Ruzomberok ( Lay away) ( No Trade)
17.30pm German Bundesliga- Bayern Munich v B. Monchengladbach (Lay away) ( No Trade)
18.00pm Belarus Vysshaya Liga - Din. Minsk v Slavia Mozyr (Lay away) (No Trade)
19.00pm Slovakia Fortuna Liga -Dun. Streda v Michalovce ( Lay away) (No Trade)
19.00pm Slovenia Prva Liga- Mura vs Tabor Sszana ( Lay away) (No Trade)
19.00pm Turkey Superliga- Besiktas vs Antalyaspor ( Greened out a small profit by laying away again when they went 2-0 up)
20.30pm Spain La Liga 2- Zaragoza vs Alcorcon ( lay away) ( Trade Lost)
21.00pm Portugal Primera - Braga vs Boavista ( Lay away) (Trade lost) -
Games to lay the underdog if they take the lead.
The stronger team is noted below as either the home team or away team, we lay the opposition should they take the lead.13:00 Indjija v Vojvodina Away 177 72
1:30 PM Norrkoping v Kalmar Home 296 68
2:00 PM Energetik v Belshina Home 112 82
3:00 PM Viitorul v Poli Iasi Home 180 70
4:00 PM Slavia Prague v Zlin Home 373 90
4:30 PM Hammarby v Ostersunds Home 225 74
4.45PM Ludogorets v Botev Plodiv Home 297 88
5:00 PM Slask Wroclaw v LKS Lodz Home 126 67
6:00 PM Partizan v Cukaricki Home 137 84
6:30 PM Real Madrid v Eibar Home 251 83
7:00 PM CSKA Sofia v Lok Plodiv Home 274 65
7:30 PM Olympiakos v Aris Home 293 81
8:05 PM Videoton v Ujpest Home 149 63 -
@james-woodroffe yes it's all about value, once you trade as long as i have you really don't mind the early goals that go in, it just means you have picked a good game to trade and the goal came early. getting a better price is so much more important than trading every game regardless of price.
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@james-woodroffe a quote I seen the other day.
Human nature will always make us dwell on what we just missed out on without appreciating what we've got.
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Hey guys, hope it’s been a good day for everyone. I just been having a quick look thru today but just want to bring one thing to the table and this is especially relevant to those of you who are new. Don’t stress and worry to much about matches on your list that don’t end up qualifying as trades. It’s going to happen, and if you’re happy with your filters you just have to accept it. There’s gunna be days where nothing or very few qualifies. That’s cool it might seem like a waste of time but money not traded is bank not lost. Remember you’re trading and not betting and sometimes that can be tricky to get your head around. Just don’t worry about it and once that doesn’t bother you you’re winning half the battle which is mind set and discipline. If you’re happy with what you’re looking for it will come when it doesn’t it simply doesn’t. You’re not doing anything wrong it’s just how s**t pans out sometimes over 90 minutes.
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@darri said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@james-everard said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
On my list for lay the draw at 60mins strategy is the Israeli Premier league game Maccabi Haifa vs Beitar Jerusalem. This is what I am finding hard is the inplay stats are awful no shots on target from either side and 4 off. The odds are 2.56 at half time for ltd, if I wait until 60mins the odds should be below 2.2. What I am struggling with these games with little inplay action seem to have a goal before the 60mins and the feeling of missing out is very frustrating. How do people's mentality get over the fear of missing out, or would you just go in at half time at higher odds ?
FOMO really should be the most talked about topic in trading. For a trader like me who only enters late in a game there are countless games that have a goal in it before i enter. Its not a trade lost or missed out on, its just a game that never met my price. There are thousands of games a year, you dont need to be getting on them all. I went 2 days without finding a trade, that because im waiting for the best trades that match all of my set criteria for entry. Iv now just had a flurry of games come into the qualifying, and all have been won, if i was chasing and hunting for games id be getting worse prices and wouldnt be as profitable. Believe me i know your pain iv blown many banks and learnt the hard way. Once you stop these urges youll then become a better trader, always try keep trading as simple as possible. We dont need massive lists of games on watchlists or heaps of strategies, we just need to find a few good ones every week to be growing the bank. We only ever need to have one good solid strategy.
Absolutely spot on. @Ryan-Carruthers told me ages ago “it’s not like there’s limited opportunities.”
If trades don’t make the grade mate they don’t make the grade. I’d rather move on than trade just for the sake of it. Been there done that the move on option is the only way forward. -
@chris-osborne hey mate, there’s nothing wrong with quitting whilst you are ahead. Especially (I think) if you’ve nailed down selections and might only have a few on your plate. If you reach your target and still have games left it’s a great place to be if you just give those remaining games a “whatever” mindset and move on with your day.
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@john-hurst there’s no just about 2 points mate, that’s a good day well done.
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@john-hurst said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
Up just 2 points today then. Too many no trades today- cant do much about that i guess
2 points up is better than 2 down mate
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@darri Hi Darri - didn't know you had that thread. Makes for very interesting reading and I hope you will continue to write there, as I find it very inspirational.
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Up just 2 points today then. Too many no trades today- cant do much about that i guess
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Just updated my results, check them below. Just want to show people that dont panic about always having to find games to trade because everyone else seems to be. Work on your own style of trading. For me i wait till i find high quality trades with low prices to lay. If there is one thing that i anyone ever takes from my ramblings either on here or my blog, less is always more and price is king! Iv only been active in 6 games this whole week. Iv put in 9 trades within them and netted over 17 points/17% bank growth. There is method to the madness i speak, sometimes. Look around at the strategies requiring you to be active in 10s of games just to make a small profit, just wait and be patient, find good prices to enter. FOMO will always hurt especially on a forum when you see others making money. But actually have a look at their profit returns not their win rate, big difference!
Ill do a update on the thread in the morning, you can find my blog in my description box at bottom.
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@john-hurst said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:
@richard-latimer noticed they stopped playing the second i put my stake on
Always the way
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@richard-latimer noticed they stopped playing the second i put my stake on
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PAOK making seriously hard work of it. Only about 1.5pts clear if no goal there. Good but definitely should have stopped earlier. Will take that on board for sure.
