The BTC Football Trading Thread

Matt Wood

@daniel-cooper said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

Question for those of you doing this full time (I have no grasp on how many people here do!) - what do you tend to do in the downtime? Does your bank carry you through comfortably or is it a bit of a struggle?

Bit of a personal question but I’m merely curious! Any answers appreciated, understand if its a bit personal

Afternoon. Hope things are good

Obviously I am a beginner like you but for me IF, big IF, I make it to pro, or even semi pro then I envisage the downtime spent researching investments. Things like ETFs, outright stocks and shares purchases. I will include Football Index in this too. Plus for me I will always have a few clients I help with nutrition as I will always be interested in that. Maybe now and then a PT client too although less interested in that now.

Daniel Cooper

Question for those of you doing this full time (I have no grasp on how many people here do!) - what do you tend to do in the downtime? Does your bank carry you through comfortably or is it a bit of a struggle?

Bit of a personal question but I’m merely curious! Any answers appreciated, understand if its a bit personal

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@martin-futter said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

@alan-steward if you can't beat them join them?

LOL... No problems... Slim pickings just now

Martin

@alan-steward if you can't beat them join them?

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@ryan-carruthers said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

HT LTD 0-0 or 1-1 watch list

If these games are 0-0 or 1-1 then I will wait till around 55-60mins then look to LTD.

Vestmannaeyjar v Leiknir
Fram v Olafsvik

Your picks are beginning to look familiar

Ryan

HT LTD 0-0 or 1-1 watch list

If these games are 0-0 or 1-1 then I will wait till around 55-60mins then look to LTD.

Vestmannaeyjar v Leiknir
Fram v Olafsvik

Martin

@chris-osborne said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

Haven't listened to it yet but the Podcast @Martin-Futter has just posted should be essential listening for those of us guilty of overtrading!

thanks mate, to be fair it only comes from mistakes i have made in the past myself

Finn Kristensen

@john-hurst said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

Recommend anyone, especially newbies to check out Paulo Rebelo on youtube. Very knowledgeable bloke on overs/unders trading and trading in general. Its in portugese but with good english captions.

Thanks - I've heard of him but since he's Portuguese I have never seen anything he's done.

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Recommend anyone, especially newbies to check out Paulo Rebelo on youtube. Very knowledgeable bloke on overs/unders trading and trading in general. Its in portugese but with good english captions.

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@chris-osborne i think its off the back of what was discussed over the weekend on this thread. People asking about overtrading etc. Martin is right there will be loads of different ideas and thoughts and traders will do things differently. Probably a hard topic for a podcast with just 20 min so fair play, i would say there is more to add but was a good listen. Id advise anyone to read over the weekends posts, listen to the podcast and iv done numerous posts about how to stop overtrading on my blog too. Been good to have a collective effort try to tackle this problem.

Richard Latimer

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

@daniel-cooper said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

Honka behind in Finland. Looks like they're all over their opponents. Got my lay in @ 2.44 but iit's finally starting to come down a bit noow.

Also on this!

Just need to tell yourself the later the better haha!!

Not going to get angry like I did last time but I'm massively on the fence with Finland. Just seemed to be so much posession but nothing penetrative. No urgency. Then right at the end if anyone was making the running it was HIFK.

Last year in Finland it was maybe half a point profit or something. This year from 3 trades minus around 3.5pts.Will continue tracking but remove from my main sheet. So many other leagues performing brilliantly. I really don't need the Fins if they are going to do this.

Richard Latimer

@daniel-cooper said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

Honka behind in Finland. Looks like they're all over their opponents. Got my lay in @ 2.44 but iit's finally starting to come down a bit noow.

Also on this!

Just need to tell yourself the later the better haha!!

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Haven't listened to it yet but the Podcast @Martin-Futter has just posted should be essential listening for those of us guilty of overtrading!

Daniel Cooper

@richard-latimer said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

Honka behind in Finland. Looks like they're all over their opponents. Got my lay in @ 2.44 but iit's finally starting to come down a bit noow.

Also on this!

Richard Latimer

Honka behind in Finland. Looks like they're all over their opponents. Got my lay in @ 2.44 but iit's finally starting to come down a bit noow.

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best ligas over 2.5 in august vs odds above 2.2 j2 league/china/serbia the better teams/sweden/norway elite division
0-0 ht 3 sh goals or more, and russia/mexico/peru/egypte doing also well .... check h2h flashscore but small samplesize

ligas to stay out scotland/slowakia/slovenia/finland most of the time/norway 1.division

Ryan

Nothing today from me

Martin

@finn-kristensen said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

@liam-willis said in The BTC Football Trading Thread:

ok brains gone does anyone know how to work out the probability for the lay side, for example using martins chart 71% is 1.4 to back what would be lay side to this.

The bettingtools site does what you want but if you don't want to have to open that site every time, it's not difficult to calculate for yourself.

If you have back odds of 1.4, you calculate the probability as 1/1.4 = 71% (you already have these two).
So, if there is 71% chance of it happening, there must be 29% chance of it not happening. This converts to odds of 1/0.29 = 3.45 (these percentages are all rounded figures, why the site will show a slightly different result - if you use the real figures, you get the Lay odds to be 3.50).

On the sheet, flip the fractions round of the odds you are looking at, so 4/9 becomes 9/4, then look at the decimal of that figure (3.25) and that is effectively the odds you are backing at when laying at 4/9 (1.44)

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@martin-walker cracking results mate, keep that up 20% a month in your overall trading will quite significantly grow your bank if you maintain this approach your laughing here mate awesome stuff

Martin Walker

@matt-wood yes going forward it will be. I did trade the elos but hovered around break even this month, i was only dabbling in them and didnt give them my full attention and they took up quite a bit of time so will drop them and pick them up again in the future. Will now spend all my efforts trying to improve the fhg and shg. Im more than happy for them to keep producing 10% though